EICR TT installation coded C2 by electrician

Hi,


Anybody got any thoughts on this situation?

I have had an EICR done on a property. There were no issues reported apart from earthing. 

The electrician measured the rod resistance at 534 ohms. He insists it has to be less than 200, but his preference is less than a 100.
He said the 30ma RCD wouldn't trip at the measured value, so didn't bother to test it. Bizarrely, he said he pressed the test button which, of course, tripped, but he coded it C2 "unsatisfactory".

I had already tested it with my meter. I got 400ohms, a worst case trip time of 9ms, best 6ms and 28ma on the ramp test.

I pointed out the 200ohms is a recommendation not a requirement and asked him to justify his C2, he refused and stated he stands by his findings.

I haven't checked yet if there is an obvious reason for the rod to be high, but it seems to me the requirements of the regulations have been met.


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  • I'd agree that there's no issue with 30mA RCDs tripping at the reported value - it should actually trip (eventually) at 7666Ω and within 0.2s at half that. 1667Ω is to ensure that the earthing system can't float around at over 50V without the RCD ever tripping.

    400-500Ω is around 5x to 10x higher than I'd get for a simple 4' rod sunk into half decent soil around here - so unless there are extenuating circumstances it certainly should be ringing bells for 'maybe there's something not quite right there' (rather like getting a couple of MΩ.insulation test on a brand new PVC circuit with nothing connected).

    There's also the issue of reliability - soil resistance can change considerably with weather - dry or freezing can make the top part of the electrode useless - if it's looking dodgy after a wet winter, what's it going to be like in a drought or a prolonged cold snap? 200Ω (or some say 100Ω) is supposed to be a good indication that a decent length of rod has reached strata that's likely to be reliable in the long term.

    As for the coding, it's not immediately dangerous - so definitely not a C1. Could it be dangerous under single fault conditions? - possibly (e.g. if the Earth connection if the reading is an indication that it's hanging on by a single corroded strand and it could fail completely at any moment (especially if standing protective conductor currents from an entire installation could be enough to make the earthing system hazardous live)  So maybe a C2, if not certainly C3 - but it depends on a few factors we can't see.

       - Andy.

  • Opinions don't matter, only the regs and the facts: it doesn't matter what some say. The resistance is well below maximum and the disconnect times are compliant. I would say (intended) no justification for C2. C3 or obs. The best practice guide states C2 if the RCD does not trip, it does.

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  • Opinions don't matter, only the regs and the facts: it doesn't matter what some say. The resistance is well below maximum and the disconnect times are compliant. I would say (intended) no justification for C2. C3 or obs. The best practice guide states C2 if the RCD does not trip, it does.

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