AFDDs

We have just completed a periodic I and T of an 80 bed accommodation block for students. On chatting to the estate services chap, he was surprised that I merely mentioned that AFDDs were a current regulatory requirement but did not issue a code 3 as had been the case with other contractors in other parts of the estate. 
I really do not understand how a contractor can make a recommendation to install these things in an existing building without detailed knowledge of the fire risk. By all means point to the regulation, blunt and all as it is, but leave the recommendation to the fire risk assessor. 

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  • 421.1.7 Arc fault detection devices ... shall be provided for ... Purpose-built student accommodation.

    I suggest that, "shall" obviates a fire risk assessment.

  • Purpose-built student accommodation.

    An interesting concept.

    I suggest that modern high-quality purpose-built student accommodation ought not to require AFDD: arc faults ought not to develop.

    Then we have the medieval universities: do they not contain "purpose-built student accommodation"? On historical grounds alone, they need best quality fire precautions.

    By contrast, the ancient university colleges have bought buildings and converted them into student accommodation. Clearly they were not "purpose built" so they do not fall under 421.1.7. Surely they require AFDD, especially if they are timber-framed.

    I am bound to conclude that the prescriptive nature of 421.1.7 is unhelpful.

  • That is a good point and one I suspect most readers will have missed - the most dangerous accommodation buildings  can be the 'change of use' kind rather than the 'purpose built' as the adaptions are quite often necessarily something of a compromise, and may be associated with all sorts of things that do not quite meet modern building regs.. As you say as worded the regs could be read as  excluding the most vulnerable cases. (Thinking back to my own uni accommodation that had originally been for gentleman and their batmen, with oak paneled rooms built in the 1700s, and the remains of about 3 different other sorts of lighting predating the late 1950s electrics ). There are also loads of crummy Victorian town houses that have been partitioned into flats and things - again clearly not purpose built, unless you accept 'purpose built for an entirely different purpose'

    Mike

  • By contrast, the ancient university colleges have bought buildings and converted them into student accommodation. Clearly they were not "purpose built" so they do not fall under 421.1.7.

    Clearly they were not, but after conversion are they not then purpose-built student accommodation?

    If not, what are they?

    Just asking.

  • well, 'converted', as in "a town house conversion to flats" or "an office conversion to flats" for example.Unless perhaps most of the  original building was knocked down and rebuilt. I'd read 'purpose built' to normally mean built from the ground up for the current purpose. Otherwise you could have  "our state of the art clinic is housed within a purpose built chicken shed", which would read a bit oddly, and reminds me of a comedy sketch, but as I can't remember by whom I'll ignore that thought for now.

    Mike.

  • Next question:

    What is the definition of 'student accommodation'?

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  • That depends upon your definition of "student", which broadly, is anybody who studies. Specifically, at Christ Church, Oxford, it means a senior member of the College, i.e. a (teaching) fellow. In common parlance, however, I think that it means an undergraduate (of a university).

    In the context of BS 7671, I take "purpose-built student accommodation" to mean halls of residence at a university.