BA3 and sockets

I posted on this before but following a query from an estate services engineer who was attending a 2391 course, some further clarification would be helpful. This fellow has an ambulatory difficulty and is registered as disabled. The way the regulation is worded could mean that irrespective of whether the person is BA4 or BA5, if they are also BA3, a risk assessment is not a permitted exception for indent (ii).

The Irish Regs differ by just referring to ordinary persons but allow exceptions accompanied by an appropriate risk assessment for (1) sockets for use by skilled or instructed persons, (2) a specific socket outlet for a particular item of equipment. Now I don't know if IS1010-1 2020 is more closely aligned to HD60364 or if the British chaps have put their own spin on it. 

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  • The way the regulation is worded could mean that irrespective of whether the person is BA4 or BA5, if they are also BA3, a risk assessment is not a permitted exception for indent (ii).

    CAREFUL!

    We need to be VERY wary with the way we interpret this requirement, to avoid discriminating without cause (and hence be in contravention of relevant legislation).

    BA3 does NOT cover ALL 'disabled' persons, only those who are:

    Persons not in command of all their physical and/or intellectual abilities (sick persons, old persons)
    According to the nature of the disability

    Therefore, it would be VERY unusual (perhaps only rarely possible, if ever) for someone to be BA3 and at the same time BA4 or BA5 ?

    (To view it from the other perspective, how could someone be appropriately a skilled person (electrically) or an instructed person (electrically) and at the same time not "in command of all their physical and intellectual abilities"?)

  • skilled person (electrically) or an instructed person (electrically) and at the same time not "in command of all their physical and intellectual abilities"?)

    Where are these definitions coming from, and are their boundaries locally or  internationally agreed ?

    As described it sounds like you  could have a sparky with some degree of  paralysis or even early stages of Parkinson's disease or similar. Not of course physically completely able, but perhaps still suitably skilled - or perhaps there are some traps in the definitions for odd cases.

    Be aware that there are plenty of disabled folk with Ham radio as a hobby who take their ability to order electrons about very seriously  indeed - as activities go, when infirmity or disability sets in,  it is one that is given up much at a far more advanced state of decline than things like driving or playing golf.

    Mike.

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  • skilled person (electrically) or an instructed person (electrically) and at the same time not "in command of all their physical and intellectual abilities"?)

    Where are these definitions coming from, and are their boundaries locally or  internationally agreed ?

    As described it sounds like you  could have a sparky with some degree of  paralysis or even early stages of Parkinson's disease or similar. Not of course physically completely able, but perhaps still suitably skilled - or perhaps there are some traps in the definitions for odd cases.

    Be aware that there are plenty of disabled folk with Ham radio as a hobby who take their ability to order electrons about very seriously  indeed - as activities go, when infirmity or disability sets in,  it is one that is given up much at a far more advanced state of decline than things like driving or playing golf.

    Mike.

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