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City and Guilds 2330

Scott Seedell

Has anyone studied CG2330 and subsequently discovered problems with it? 

We're in the process of promoting one of our employees to a QS position (we're with the NICEIC) and having completed all the forms, it turns out that the technical certificate he did in his apprenticeship in 2011 is now not worth anything. Certainly it isn't deemed suitable as a craft qualification for a QS role anyway. It seems that in their wisdom, the EAS (who are they anyway??) have decided that suitable level 3 qualifications do not now include the CG2330 and have unilaterally decided to remove it, despite it once being accredited as the recognised technical certificate of apprenticeships for several years. He clearly had no choice in the technical certificate he studied, it was just part of his apprenticeship at the time.

So an electrician with a full apprenticeship under his belt and over 12 years industry experience is now deemed not as qualified as an apprentice completing their studies in 2023, or an adult trainee having completed an intensive 28 day training course. They honestly think this is reducing electrical incidents? The NICEIC are typically not interested at all and have ruled out any form of appeals procedure where it can be justified that his experience and once-recognised qualifications are just as viable as anything being taught today. Their only solution is to suggest he takes an additional course. The organisation doesn't seem the least bit interested in standards of electrical safety, they're just happy to take customer's money off them. On top of this are the amazing double-standards and confusion in this industry. He can apply for a JIB gold card as approved electrician (the ECS & JIB accept his qualifications - it's just the EAS that don't).

How on Earth do we try and get some uniformity with the these different organisations (ECA, JIB, ECS, EAS etc etc etc) and get them all singing off the same hymn sheet? Is there any point trying to lobby anyone to look at the blatant discrimination at play with retrospectively degrading someone's apprenticeship? This is unfairly hampering career progression and we can't be the only ones affected.

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    Alan, I don't know your circumstances but I would think it harsh beyond belief if the training centre axed you as a candidate for the sake of a month or two. As far as I know, City and Guilds only introduced the time constraint of 18 months to the 2346 in March 2024. If you were registered before that, then I doubt the constraint can be applied retrospectively. 

    Some centres play hard ball and that is understandable as many candidates start with an abundance of enthusiasm and then fall below the radar.

    If I understand you correctly, you have paid a substantial fee for the qualification. I would go back to the centre and tell them that you will be complete by the end of October. 

    Entry to the 2346 now requires at least a level 2 qualification recognised to provide basic level underpinning knowledge. That was introduced in September 2023. So if you stay with your current registration, you will be able to avoid that. 

    If I can help further, just let me know. 

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    Alan, I don't know your circumstances but I would think it harsh beyond belief if the training centre axed you as a candidate for the sake of a month or two. As far as I know, City and Guilds only introduced the time constraint of 18 months to the 2346 in March 2024. If you were registered before that, then I doubt the constraint can be applied retrospectively. 

    Some centres play hard ball and that is understandable as many candidates start with an abundance of enthusiasm and then fall below the radar.

    If I understand you correctly, you have paid a substantial fee for the qualification. I would go back to the centre and tell them that you will be complete by the end of October. 

    Entry to the 2346 now requires at least a level 2 qualification recognised to provide basic level underpinning knowledge. That was introduced in September 2023. So if you stay with your current registration, you will be able to avoid that. 

    If I can help further, just let me know. 

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