Air Source Heat Pumps, SCOP and humidity

My gas fired combi is getting a bit long in the tooth now, so I've been vaguely looking at the possibility of replacing it with a heat pump.

SWMBO isn't keen on the idea of ground source - we've probably got enough land for our relatively modest heating load, but having a mature garden on the top of it makes trenching a hard sell, so I've been looking at air source...

I realize that at times (very often in the cooler months I imagine) that the outdoor evaporator coils will be below 0°C - and so will ice up from condensation. Ice will not only block the airflow but insulate the coils, so needs to be removed. No problem I understand, the heat pumps detect this and automatically go into a defrost cycle where either the refrigerant flow is reversed (taking a bit of heat back from the heating water circuits and using it to melt the ice) or by direct electrical heating. From what I can tell all that's all included in the seasonal co-efficient of performance (SCOP) figures, so I can in theory still work out (roughly) how well the system should work overall.

But thinks I, having spent the last couple of days in fog, the SCOP benchmarks for EN 14825 are done according to the climates of the likes of Strasbourg, Athens and Helsinki; and it occurs to me that the British climate is often somewhat damper, so even if the temperatures match I would have thought we'd likely get a lot more condensation, and therefore a lot more ice - so it'll have to have much more frequent defrost cycles- which is going to consume more energy for no increase in output. So the SCOP figures provided by manufacturers may be well off what I could achieve in reality - which makes me a bit nervous.

My research so far seems to suggest that the test conditions only have to reflect the temperature profiles of Strasbourg, Athens and Helsinki, so far I've found no mention of humidity, so it might be possible that manufacturers could run the tests in a relatively dry atmosphere and get improved results and still comply with the standard.

Has anyone got any ideas as to how significant the defrost cycles might be on the overall SCOP?

   - Andy.

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  • We went on holiday last week for four nights, so I turned the heating down for frost protection and the hot water off. So effectively the system was off for for days and would not fire up when we got home last Sunday evening. 

    It took until Wednesday afternoon to get the parts and we don't have an immersion heater as back up for hot water, only a fan heater for heating a room.

    It's definitely time to replace the ancient Glow Worm boiler, my plan is a new heat only gas boiler to the existing cylinder. 

    Then hopefully, in the long term replace the cylinder with a new dual coil cylinder with solar thermal connected to the bottom coil and the gas boiler connected to the top coil, as well as an immersion heater for back up and/or connection to PV panels. 

    That should do it, there's always the option to retrofit a heat pump anyway if we replace the gas boiler and still have a cylinder. 

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  • We went on holiday last week for four nights, so I turned the heating down for frost protection and the hot water off. So effectively the system was off for for days and would not fire up when we got home last Sunday evening. 

    It took until Wednesday afternoon to get the parts and we don't have an immersion heater as back up for hot water, only a fan heater for heating a room.

    It's definitely time to replace the ancient Glow Worm boiler, my plan is a new heat only gas boiler to the existing cylinder. 

    Then hopefully, in the long term replace the cylinder with a new dual coil cylinder with solar thermal connected to the bottom coil and the gas boiler connected to the top coil, as well as an immersion heater for back up and/or connection to PV panels. 

    That should do it, there's always the option to retrofit a heat pump anyway if we replace the gas boiler and still have a cylinder. 

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