As a part p installer can i install a 7kw ev charging point?

I have a cable supply to an outside IP65 box on my drive. When we refurbished the house I put a SWA  cable to supply power to our  temporary accommodation including an electric shower. As we now let the property I was thinking of converting this to an EV Charging point, possibly a 7kw one ( the supply is comfortably big enough) . I don't think i need any further qualifications to do this, just a part p notification (for amendment to an outside circuit) and possibly i need to inform the DNO? Clearly I could just use the 13A  outlet, but thought it might be a "selling point"?

The NICEIC website seems to confirm that there's no need to actually register a charger under part p, just  the circuit alteration or installation if necessary.. Its quite hard to research this online, I just get reams of companies wanting to sell me one, can anyone on here shed a bit more light on this?

Thanks.  Dave 

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  • I don't think i need any further qualifications to do this

    Legally, I don't think there' any demand for "qualifications" for any normal electrical work - you need to be competent of course, and while paper qualifications are often a convenient method of being able to demonstrate competence, they're not of themselves a requirement.

    Part P still allows DIY - the likes of me just has the pre-notify and pay an exorbitant fee for certain works, but it's still legally legit.

    As yours is rented, the The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector regulations may apply (certainly does in England - I'm not sure if the other nations of the UK have an equivalent) - but as I read it the demand for "qualified" person do to the work only applies the the EICR and any subsequent remedials -  other work only requires adherence to standards (i.e. BS 7671 .... we can argue about exactly which version) so that reduces to just old fashioned competency again.

    Obviously you'd have to comply with section 722 of BS 7671 (including all the awkward bits about using PME, or not) - that even has something to say if you want to use a 13A socket (for a granny lead). Plus all the usual general requirements, such as keeping things connected to different earthing systems out of reach of each other.

    There are other things to keep in mind - e.g. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/regulations-electric-vehicle-smart-charge-points - which may mean you'd need some means of data communication with the charge point - which may mean running a CAT 5 or similar alongside the power cable (if wireless isn't an option). Similarly some charge points can limit the load to ensure the overall supply isn't overloaded - which again needs an ELV connection back to the house (for a CT).

      - Andy.

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  • I don't think i need any further qualifications to do this

    Legally, I don't think there' any demand for "qualifications" for any normal electrical work - you need to be competent of course, and while paper qualifications are often a convenient method of being able to demonstrate competence, they're not of themselves a requirement.

    Part P still allows DIY - the likes of me just has the pre-notify and pay an exorbitant fee for certain works, but it's still legally legit.

    As yours is rented, the The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector regulations may apply (certainly does in England - I'm not sure if the other nations of the UK have an equivalent) - but as I read it the demand for "qualified" person do to the work only applies the the EICR and any subsequent remedials -  other work only requires adherence to standards (i.e. BS 7671 .... we can argue about exactly which version) so that reduces to just old fashioned competency again.

    Obviously you'd have to comply with section 722 of BS 7671 (including all the awkward bits about using PME, or not) - that even has something to say if you want to use a 13A socket (for a granny lead). Plus all the usual general requirements, such as keeping things connected to different earthing systems out of reach of each other.

    There are other things to keep in mind - e.g. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/regulations-electric-vehicle-smart-charge-points - which may mean you'd need some means of data communication with the charge point - which may mean running a CAT 5 or similar alongside the power cable (if wireless isn't an option). Similarly some charge points can limit the load to ensure the overall supply isn't overloaded - which again needs an ELV connection back to the house (for a CT).

      - Andy.

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  • Hi, thanks. So i had a look a look on the .gov site yesterday,  didn't know about an internet connection up there but it's a simple job if I use a powerlines extender. I need  to notify the DNO, but not request as my supply has enough spare capacity ( I've done an assessment as per and have a 100A fuse/cut out, no electric used for heating or showers) I'm in Wales so altering an outside supply WILL require part p notification.. I need to do a bit more homework, make sure I do. the earthing correctly. Its a holiday let next to my main home, not a long term rental and the supply for the charger comes from my house, separately metered supply, just happens that they park on our land. Should give me something to research through the winter. Thanks for you input.

    Dave