As a part p installer can i install a 7kw ev charging point?

I have a cable supply to an outside IP65 box on my drive. When we refurbished the house I put a SWA  cable to supply power to our  temporary accommodation including an electric shower. As we now let the property I was thinking of converting this to an EV Charging point, possibly a 7kw one ( the supply is comfortably big enough) . I don't think i need any further qualifications to do this, just a part p notification (for amendment to an outside circuit) and possibly i need to inform the DNO? Clearly I could just use the 13A  outlet, but thought it might be a "selling point"?

The NICEIC website seems to confirm that there's no need to actually register a charger under part p, just  the circuit alteration or installation if necessary.. Its quite hard to research this online, I just get reams of companies wanting to sell me one, can anyone on here shed a bit more light on this?

Thanks.  Dave 

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  • Arguably the bar is lower for something you put in yourself on your own property, as it is you that will suffer the consequences, and you that will (presumably not bother to) dob yourself in to the relevant authorities if a bad job is done...

    For part P a new circuit is notifiable, and in Wales rather more, including any outdoor wiring I think (and I wonder how often that notification never occurs and wiring appears by magic).


    For the DNO, all new fixed loads over 3kW are notifiable, but we know that electric showers and cookers have been added for many years without anyone actually bothering with this.

    (find your DNO here https://www.energynetworks.org/customers/find-my-network-operator )


    But a car charger is likely to be on for many hours, so either a load limit circuit with current sensor on the meter tails or a supply uprate may be in order - especially if your house has a shared feed. Without knowing your DNO I do not know their policy, but round here (SSE) they seem to take a similar line to solar power, where usually they need to be told within so many days after the fact and it feeds into their worry plan about the rating of the transformers at the end of the street. Some local substation transformers to me seem to have sprouted a fan kit in the last year, which I assume is a cheaper  halfway house compared to a full transformer upgrade, though if this is EV driven or solar power, or just heating and load creep generally,  I cannot tell.
    Note that there are several conditions (higher power, fully loaded supply ) that pre-notification is needed. Your DNO will know.

    The paper trail consideration may come when trying to sell the house at some future point, but at the very worst it gets sold with the charger temporarily disabled. Note that as others have said, many chargers expect a data connection back to the mothership, though why, and what happens without it is not always made clear.


    Mike.

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  • Arguably the bar is lower for something you put in yourself on your own property, as it is you that will suffer the consequences, and you that will (presumably not bother to) dob yourself in to the relevant authorities if a bad job is done...

    For part P a new circuit is notifiable, and in Wales rather more, including any outdoor wiring I think (and I wonder how often that notification never occurs and wiring appears by magic).


    For the DNO, all new fixed loads over 3kW are notifiable, but we know that electric showers and cookers have been added for many years without anyone actually bothering with this.

    (find your DNO here https://www.energynetworks.org/customers/find-my-network-operator )


    But a car charger is likely to be on for many hours, so either a load limit circuit with current sensor on the meter tails or a supply uprate may be in order - especially if your house has a shared feed. Without knowing your DNO I do not know their policy, but round here (SSE) they seem to take a similar line to solar power, where usually they need to be told within so many days after the fact and it feeds into their worry plan about the rating of the transformers at the end of the street. Some local substation transformers to me seem to have sprouted a fan kit in the last year, which I assume is a cheaper  halfway house compared to a full transformer upgrade, though if this is EV driven or solar power, or just heating and load creep generally,  I cannot tell.
    Note that there are several conditions (higher power, fully loaded supply ) that pre-notification is needed. Your DNO will know.

    The paper trail consideration may come when trying to sell the house at some future point, but at the very worst it gets sold with the charger temporarily disabled. Note that as others have said, many chargers expect a data connection back to the mothership, though why, and what happens without it is not always made clear.


    Mike.

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