German Standards?

Hi All - thanks for the replies.  I've started on the inspection and the first thing is just to document "as built".  I am still puzzled by their use of 3 phase in a domestic installation.  It must be more expensive, for no apparent advantage.   There is a hob running of 2 phases of 16 A.  Why not 1 phase of 32 A?  I'm wondering if there's a historical or legacy factor here.  I live in rural Norfolk and there are a lot of strange quirks here eg 2 phase supplies to remote farms.

Stephen

Thanks - very helpful.  I'll get a set.  My son speaks German as well, so either will do.  I wonder if anything has been lost in translation.  Is the set VDE 0100?

Do you know if there's a list of national departures available?

I have to chop and change between BS 7671 & AS/NZS 3000 - I'm now going to have to wrestle with NFPA 70 for which there is obviously no hope because it's got nothing in common.

But it would be very handy if there was a document that summarises national departures. We get good advice from our CBTL for the IEC 61010 series but each IEC 60364 implementation seems to live in isolation.

Einverstanden  - aber Ich bin nicht so sicher ob der uhrsprunglicher Autor wirdet uns so einfach verstehen.
Oder etwas in diese richtung - mein Deutsch ist heutzutage etwas verrostet.

mfG

Mike.

Genau

That looks good Roger, and is not too far from the sort of schedule you would see in the UK. No ring tests of course.

Being able to speak, or at least read and write in German is an advantage of course.

I have this version, I'm not sure if it is up to date. It states only for training and examination use.

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yes - and normally it used to be the case that the insurers wanted to see the results certificates, I'm not sure if that is still the case. Mike.

Hi All

Thanks for all the helpful comments.  I've moved in now and already been "outed" as an electrical engineer.  Someone has asked me to inspect a house they have just moved into.  Is there a German version of the EICR?

Stephen

They have recently rowed back on the compulsory AFDD thing actually. It is a long time (~ 20 plus years) since I was out there, and the rules have probably tightened up somewhat, but at least officially only registered electricians are allowed to work on installations. The inspection and test is more or less the same, and now harmonized on 30mA RCDs. Of course sockets are allowed in bathrooms and nearer sinks than UK practice. In areas prone to lightening there will be a roof LPS.  In towns TNC-s is pretty common, but as you get out of town you will find TT. Both have electrodes or where appropriate welded connections to foundation steels - usually connected in two places to make a 'ring round' test to confirm that it has not rotted off.

Christmas tree layout 16A radials in 2,5mm tend to do a floor or part of a floor, as lights and power combined, Only in commercial settings will lights and power be separated.  When I was out there 16A bottle fuses were the standard, but now I think 16A RCBOs  (usually with the MCB 'C curve' )These may be singles in conduit or in semi -flexible insulated and sheathed round.

A ring or T and E with a bare earth would be seen as terrible sins, and our desire to see separation of lights and power in small buildings would be seen as overly fussy.

As Roger says, expect 3 phases to water heaters and cookers.

Mike