Design voltage of incandescent lamps

As is well known, the nominal or declared voltage of UK low voltage mains was reduced from 240 volts down to 230 volts, some years ago. Nothing much actually changed though and the measured voltage still tends to be 240 volts most of the time in most places.

But what  is the design voltage of mains voltage incandescent lamps for the UK market ? is it 230 volts or 240 volts. Is the light output and service life measured at 230 volts or at 240 ?

If a lamp designed for 230 volts is burnt at 240 volts the life will be significantly reduced.

If a lamp designed for 240 volts is run from an actual 230 volt supply, then the light output will be significantly reduced.

Incandescent lamps are now much less used, but there is still a substantial market via a number of loopholes. Traffic signals still use incandescent lamps.

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  • One advantage of incandescent bulb traffic lights is that they are much better at melting any snow which has accumulated on or around the lens.

  • I do feel like I've entered a bit of a time warp here, basically don't panic - all these issues were very thoroughly worked through around 20 years ago...probably longer in the highways world.

    And yes, where applicable railway LED signals (or more accurately their control and monitoring functions) are SIL4.

    I do remember one of my my colleagues in the early 2000s saying that LEDs could never work in rail signalling but he was a) a mechanical engineer and b) rather thoroughly proved wrong.

    Cheers,

    Andy

    (formally UK Engineering Manager / Product Manager for (amongst other things) incandescent rail signals for a major manufacturer...delighted that that part of the role is now obsolete) 

    One advantage of incandescent bulb traffic lights is that they are much better at melting any snow which has accumulated on or around the lens.

    P.S. On this point, the person I mention above did also, quite correctly, regularly point out that the problem is that road traffic lights are the wrong way up! The problem doesn't arise with rail signals (at least as far as snow blocking the red signal which is the important bit).

  • Funny how when a subject comes up it immediately pops up again...I was helping a colleague with their CEng application this morning, and one of their bits of evidence is that they led a team who developed from scratch a rail signalling interlocking system in Turkey. We were looking for an example of consideration of sustainability, and they pointed out that they had introduced a new feedback and monitoring and control system in their interlocking logic to allow the use of low energy LED signals, including the safe detection of failures. I did smile at the coincidence that I'd only just written about that, not having thought about it at all for several years...