This is a question about (iii) of 514.13.1 of BS 7671:2022

This is a question about (iii) of 514.13.1 of BS 7671:2022.

 

BS 7671:2022

514.13.1 A durable warning notice with the words 'Safety Electrical Connection - Do Not Remove' shall be securely fixed in a visible position at or near:

(i) the point of connection of every earthing conductor to an earth electrode, and

(ii) the point of connection of every bonding conductor to an extraneous-conductive-part, and

(iii) the main earthing terminal; where separate from main switchgear.

 

Q) I am wondering where does (iii) refer to, and why it is necessary to install the warning notices there?

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  • (iii) the main earthing terminal; where separate from main switchgear

    The wording isn't exactly unambiguous. For example, in the diagram, is the service head separate from the main switchgear? I guess plenty of sparks would contend that it is immediately beside and therefore not separate, as distinct from the case where it is separate when the consumer unit is in the house and the service head is in the outside meter cubicle.

    For the same reason, I would contend that the MET in the diagram is not separate from the main switchgear and therefore does not need a label. 

  • For the same reason, I would contend that the MET in the diagram is not separate from the main switchgear and therefore does not need a label.

    That's an interesting perspective. I don't agree, because it's the noun form of 'separate' that is used, rather than the verbal form - it does not say 'separated from' but 'separate from'. Hence, I've always been of the opinion that 'separate from' being 'not part of' [the assembly that is] main switch gear, and would use 'separated from' if I intended Lyle's interpretation.

    But it is only an opinion. Whilst anyone can provide their opinion, only a court can decide on the interpretation of a standard in given circumstances.

    I had a look back, and the 15th and original (1991) 16th Edition did not require the MET to be labelled, only connections of earthing conductors to earth electrodes, and bonding conductors to extraneous-conductive-parts.

    The current requirement (with current wording) I believe appeared in Amendment 1:1994 to BS 7671:1992, so has been in place for 30 years.

  • That's a very contrived interpretation of the word "separate".  The MET is not attached to the service head, and it's not the earth bar in the consumer unit.  It's definitely separate.

  • only a court can decide on the interpretation of a standard in given circumstances

    So the Judge might apply the "mischief rule", i.e. what is the problem which the statute is intended to remedy? If the purpose of 514.13.1 is to warn people not to disconnect earthing and bonding conductors where they are accessible at either end, it ought also to apply to my situation.

    (I might add that there is nothing which prevents me from putting a notice there.)

  • (I might add that there is nothing which prevents me from putting a notice there.)

    Agreed, BS 7671 is a "minimum standard" and you can go over and above.There is nothing wrong with putting notices where you see fit.

    However, I believe we were discussing whether the DNO's earthing terminal in a service head was an MET, and I still don't believe it is.

  • The current requirement (with current wording) I believe appeared in Amendment 1:1994 to BS 7671:1992, so has been in place for 30 years.

    For general interest.

    I will add to this, that it was only in 2022 that the requirement for the notice to conform to BS 951 (standard for bonding clamps, which had an embossed metal 'label') was removed. Of course, the "sticker", "screw on plastic" and engraved laminated versions of the notice strictly didn't conform to BS 7671 between 1991 and 2022 (although lots were fitted and no-one cared).

    From BS 7671:2018+A2:2022, as per Regulation 514.9.2, all notices should conform to the standards for user instructions (and safety signs if appropriate, e.g. warning notice), and permission is given to use the bonding clamp version for this Regulation:

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  • The current requirement (with current wording) I believe appeared in Amendment 1:1994 to BS 7671:1992, so has been in place for 30 years.

    For general interest.

    I will add to this, that it was only in 2022 that the requirement for the notice to conform to BS 951 (standard for bonding clamps, which had an embossed metal 'label') was removed. Of course, the "sticker", "screw on plastic" and engraved laminated versions of the notice strictly didn't conform to BS 7671 between 1991 and 2022 (although lots were fitted and no-one cared).

    From BS 7671:2018+A2:2022, as per Regulation 514.9.2, all notices should conform to the standards for user instructions (and safety signs if appropriate, e.g. warning notice), and permission is given to use the bonding clamp version for this Regulation:

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