2nd Year Apprentice - Question on changing a light fitting & BS3036

Hi all, new to the forum and in my second year as an electrical install sparks.

So I've been asked by my girlfriend's mum to change out a light fitting they've bought which I'm led to believe is a Class 1 fitting. This is the following setup:

  • The existing CU is a Wylex BS3036 rewireable fuseboard with no RCD protection.
  • I've yet to confirm whether an MET is installed and what the earthing arrangement actually is.

I'm naturally safety conscious, but I'm not sure if I'm overthinking it. Because the fitting is a Class 1, and because it's next to a bunk bed, I'm worried if it gets knocked repeatedly the terminations will work their way loose and the fitting develops a L-E fault, and due to no RCD protection, wouldn't trip leading to the fitting becoming live.

If I can confirm the earthing arrangement is suitable, would I be OK swapping out the light? As far as I know, all cables are the red-black type with CPC, but is the CPC redundant if there is no form of main earthing conductor? What would happen if a fault was to develop with no MET present?

Because there is no RCD protection present in the CU, and if a fault was to develop L-E, it would just carry on putting out current. The installation was installed well before 18th, so is this a grey area in relation to RCD protection? I appreciate I'm altering a circuit (swapping out the fitting), which I'm aware requires RCD protection of no more than 30mA.

Additional question: If in this exact case a L-E fault would occur, would anything happen at the DNO transformer? Would the circuit remain energised and still put out 230V (or the potential for 6A)? I've got 7671 and the Student's Guide to 7671 sat next to me as I type this, and page 127 of the latter shows the prospective fault path leading back to the transformer, but in the case of the 3036 CU, does this actually serve any purpose?

Thanks in advance,
Joe

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  • If you haven't got an MET, then you have bigger problems than one lighting circuit.

    On a TN-S or TN-C-S system, a BS3036 fuse should blow pretty quickly on an L-E fault, as the E should be solidly connected to N somewhere.  We all survived before RCDs were a thing.  TT systems are another matter.

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  • If you haven't got an MET, then you have bigger problems than one lighting circuit.

    On a TN-S or TN-C-S system, a BS3036 fuse should blow pretty quickly on an L-E fault, as the E should be solidly connected to N somewhere.  We all survived before RCDs were a thing.  TT systems are another matter.

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  • Hi Simon, I appreciate the reply. Thanks!

    I agree on the MET issue, it's a serious problem that I come across almost daily that either someone has jubilee clipped on an "earth" or bolted onto the old YEB casing via a roofing bolt. My boss calls it an 'Electrician's Earth' which always gets a chuckle!