Pricing jobs

Hi, I'm after some more pricing help if you can, for labour costs from businesses signing off their own domestic work. I'm in the midlands. Assuming RCD and bonding etc is ok, carpet and floor access is fine, chased in, average cable length, and you can crack on, test and certificate if applicable. Thanks a lot in advance if anyone does this (copy and paste). LABOUR ONLY.

Part of UK:

+ VAT or no:

Replacing (like for like) ---

Replacing 4x socket fronts: £

Replacing 4x light switch fronts: £

Replacing 4x ceiling lights: £

Replacing 4x wall lights: £

Replacing 4x downlights: £

Replacing 1x floodlight: £

Replacing 1x 100mm fan: £

Replacing 4x smokes: £

Replacing 1x shower: £

Replacing 1x cooker hood: £

Replacing 1x oven or hob: £

Replacing 6-circuit consumer unit: £

Replacing 10-circuit consumer unit: £

Adding (to existing circuit) ---

Adding 1x socket in a room, cable: £

Adding 3x sockets in a room, cable: £

Adding 6x downlights, cable: £

Adding 1x PIR floodlight, FCU or switch, cable: £

Adding 1x 100mm fan core drilled, isolator, cable: £

Adding 1x cooker hood, core drilled, FCU, cable: £

Installing (new circuit) ---

Installing 4x smokes, cable, OCPD: £

Installing 1x shower, cable, isolator, OCPD: £

Installing 1x oven, cooker switch, cable, OCPD: £

Installing 6x sockets for kitchen, cable, OCPD: £

Installing 1x 10m SWA clipped, garage CU, 2x battens, 2 sockets, OCPD: £

Parents
  • How long is a piece of string  ? I don't think you will get many answers, and none at the '20 questions' survey level of detail you are requesting. You may do better asking on check a trade.

    Do folk even do a fixed price by the no of 'points'? I think there are too many variables, travel time, parking costs, repeat business with the same customer, what sort of sockets - to match the existing chrome fronted ones or the cheapest BG or screwfix, A CU full of chint breakers and one RCD or hagar RCBOs, single or three phase supplies etc?

    At best you might get a labour rate per day, and an estimate of how long a given job may take after a site visit,  but I'd expect most businesses to keep the detail of that sort of calculation to themselves.

    I would.

    Mike.

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  • How long is a piece of string  ? I don't think you will get many answers, and none at the '20 questions' survey level of detail you are requesting. You may do better asking on check a trade.

    Do folk even do a fixed price by the no of 'points'? I think there are too many variables, travel time, parking costs, repeat business with the same customer, what sort of sockets - to match the existing chrome fronted ones or the cheapest BG or screwfix, A CU full of chint breakers and one RCD or hagar RCBOs, single or three phase supplies etc?

    At best you might get a labour rate per day, and an estimate of how long a given job may take after a site visit,  but I'd expect most businesses to keep the detail of that sort of calculation to themselves.

    I would.

    Mike.

Children
  • Im asking for labour only. I got a great response for day rates and first hour rates on the UK electricians Facebook group a while back but they didn't allow this post. Why would people be shady with their rates. Once you're confident in them it's easy to say roughly and helps get a feel for the average. 

  • Depends on your overheads for a start.  I am a sole trader working from home. I can undercut anyone if I want and make a decent living. 

    A company down the road might have office staff, storage units etc that just eat profit before you start.

    Gary

  • Do folk even do a fixed price by the no of 'points'?

    The "electric board" did when I were a (young) lad and we had the house re-wired. £x per socket, £x per light etc. If you did enough I guess you could average it out to something sensible. I guess it made the sales process simpler. I recall the electricians on site complaining that this policy translated down to so many minutes per thingy - e.g. 20 min per joint box. It didn't matter if it was a simple 4-terminal one for a single light, or a big "universal joint box" that pulled together the cables for the entire downstairs lighting circuit (which they we doing at the time), it was still reckoned to be 20 mins. If they took longer overall on a job than had been estimated they had to explain why...

    In theory it should work out OK if you can average it out over a large number of jobs (i.e. use the easy jobs to subsidise the tricker ones), but you might need deep pockets to keep going if you get a few tricky jobs in a row. The market tends to work against that way of working too - if you say £x fixed and someone else works it out more accurately according to the actual conditions, they'll undercut you on the easy jobs, and you'll be left with just the nastier ones (for which you've probably underpriced, on average).

    Time taken also varies with experience - the 1st time you see a certain problem it'll likely take you ages to sort it out, by the 10th time you'll know immediately what'll work and have the right bits and bobs in your toolkit to fix it easily.

       - Andy.