Diverted neutral currents EICR

  1. If we’re are experience NCD when preforming an EICR on a property does this need to be noted on the observations, if so what code should this be given. I’m aware that this needs to be reported to the DNO and should be investigated and rectified. 
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  • With a PME system, diverted neutral currents are almost inevitable and not in my view anything to comment upon. The suppliers CNE conductor carries appreciable current with a voltage drop in proportion. Metallic services and structural steelwork provide a parallel earth path and will therefore take some of this current.

  • Thank you for your response & I also agree to a certain degree, but what current would you say would be acceptable to find within the main earth when the property is under load. In this case I had between 10 to 15A?

  • I have reservations about ..

    diverted neutral currents are almost inevitable and not in my view anything to comment upon

    Only up to the point that the bonding  conductors etc are man enough, I  hope you'd comment if the green and yellow plastic was dripping off, and the pipe clamps were too hot to touch.

    Perhaps ignore only up to a reasonable fraction of the total supply..
    Mike

  • what current would you say would be acceptable to find within the main earth


    It may be worth a call to the DNO - as they will know the layout of their supplies, and can comment intelligently about what is is reasonable for that particular substation or whatever.

    You need to get past the 'have a nice day' girls to reach someone technical, but they certainly will have someone who understands.

    Mike

  • Only up to the point that the bonding  conductors etc are man enough

    Given that the minimum size is 10 mm² (Table 54.8), one might assume that the diverted neutral current could be considerable. Table 4D1A permits 65 A for clipped direct SP.

  • I would only be concerned if the main earthing conductor, or anything connected thereto was getting warm or if the diverted neutral current exceeded the supply capacity.

    60 amp cut out fuse, and 70 amps diverted neutral current would be bit concerning and might warrant investigation.

    Main earthing conductor warm to the touch=concern, hot to the touch=alarming.

  • Quite, and at that level I'd be thinking may be broken neutral in the street and calling the DNO. At 10A on a 100 supply I probably would not, but if it was 100% of my local  load it could be my neutral that was off ... say 5A CPC current on a  street cabinet with 5A of kit in it - that would still be a worry.
     I was really saying 'its normal and OK' does have an upper  limit, and its when it compares to local load.
    Mike

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  • Quite, and at that level I'd be thinking may be broken neutral in the street and calling the DNO. At 10A on a 100 supply I probably would not, but if it was 100% of my local  load it could be my neutral that was off ... say 5A CPC current on a  street cabinet with 5A of kit in it - that would still be a worry.
     I was really saying 'its normal and OK' does have an upper  limit, and its when it compares to local load.
    Mike

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