Apparent voltage on plastic service head

What are your thoughts on this please?

Using the TIS810 contact volt stick, you can see (no audio) that no voltage is indicated on the isolator, tails or meter, but there is (by flashing red and vibrating) on the plastic service head/fuse - the tester is supposed to activate at 50-600v. The relevant DNO came and tested it, and stated there's no more than 0.4v on the head (though I don't know about the tester they used). 

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  • Have you tried putting your other hand on [*] the service head, by the neutral, to simulate the final stages where instead of pointing the stick at the surface/insulator, you reach around (~0.23) so the knuckles of the holding hand are that much nearer the neutral greatly increasing the capacitive coupling of your body to the 'earthed/neutral' and cross bonded metalwork?

    [*] perhaps with a piece of cling film or thin poly bag for extra safety, in case that case is actually partially conductive ;-)

    Aside: for an electronics folks (frequencies >75Hz ;-) this stray capacitance is why the old fashioned idea of disconnection of an oscilloscope earth for those metal cased Tektronix 'scope didn't work - the case to ground capacitance was already sufficiently high that it still provide a ground loop return path at any reasonable HF frequency.

    It's a fun calculation to consider [just] two 1cm^2 plates separated by a piece of sellotape, in picoFarads, then scale it to the human body, then scale it to impedance at operating frequency - it's how most noise get's into electronics, from the PSU switch and the metalwork! Try 230V through 1pf into a 10kohm sensor input impedance, on e of those high sensitivity ones..

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  • Have you tried putting your other hand on [*] the service head, by the neutral, to simulate the final stages where instead of pointing the stick at the surface/insulator, you reach around (~0.23) so the knuckles of the holding hand are that much nearer the neutral greatly increasing the capacitive coupling of your body to the 'earthed/neutral' and cross bonded metalwork?

    [*] perhaps with a piece of cling film or thin poly bag for extra safety, in case that case is actually partially conductive ;-)

    Aside: for an electronics folks (frequencies >75Hz ;-) this stray capacitance is why the old fashioned idea of disconnection of an oscilloscope earth for those metal cased Tektronix 'scope didn't work - the case to ground capacitance was already sufficiently high that it still provide a ground loop return path at any reasonable HF frequency.

    It's a fun calculation to consider [just] two 1cm^2 plates separated by a piece of sellotape, in picoFarads, then scale it to the human body, then scale it to impedance at operating frequency - it's how most noise get's into electronics, from the PSU switch and the metalwork! Try 230V through 1pf into a 10kohm sensor input impedance, on e of those high sensitivity ones..

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