A web site advocating women in trade giving questionable advice?

Hello, long time no post.

My father today sent me a link to an organisation of whom he suggests I become a member.  For those who don't know me, I am a 25 year time served electrician, electrical engineer and consultant.  I happen to be a lady.

I am appalled by what I have been reading.  Trust Her has been featured in the broadsheets this week.  Have a look at this advice on how to change a light fitting.

https://www.taskher.co.uk/articles/how-to-change-a-ceiling-light-fixture

I am lost for words, and most interested to know what you make of this.  Fortunately, I don't need a service such at this. Further I think this is reverse sexism.

Zs

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  • I cannot comment on the issues re sexism despite having three daughters but I have some comments on the advice:

    No advice on turning the power off, I know many people of both sexes who would struggle with this,

    No advice on testing for dead, will most people have a means of doing this safely?

    As has been mentioned loop in connections not covered and switch wiring usually without correct sleeving,

    Two way wiring not covered.

    No mention of earth sleeving or red/brown sleeving.

    I am sure there are some issues I missed.

    Over the years I have been called out to fix quite a few confused DIYers who have fallen foul of switch wiring having connected all the black /blue together and all the red/brown together and when there is a yellow in the mix  - disaster. All the DIYers have been male. 

    I hope the authors have good professional indemnity insurance.

  • I hope the authors have good professional indemnity insurance.

    I think you'd struggle proving that they owed a duty of care to the reader, the site is not claiming to offer professional training or advice. There is so much misleading or downright dangerous advice on the internet that I would imagine the courts' attitude would be that it it is not reasonable to trust anything written in a random blog. And this page does mention a few times "take professional advice". 

    Incidentally I think this page must have been updated since some of the comments above - I can't see any reference to black and white wire?  

    More generally, I can see the point of the actual service they are offering - putting people in touch with female tradespeople - I know a number for female friends and relations who are not comfortable having male tradespeople in the house, whether because of (rightly or wrongly) concerns for their personal safety or (rightly or wrongly but sadly often rightly) because they don't want to be condescended to. So this company has seen a market need and are having a go at filling it, good for them.

    But yes, maybe they should concentrate on that service rather than also trying to publish advice,,,but it feels like their hearts are in the right place. 

  • I think you'd struggle proving that they owed a duty of care to the reader

    I entirely agree.

    or (rightly or wrongly but sadly often rightly) because they don't want to be condescended to

    Just like the women in the local GPs' practice!

  • It has indeed been updated and is now quite a bit less wrong -  I wonder if  a query from Zs scared them enough to get a UK sparks to edit it  ;-)

    If so, good.

    I agree on the absent  duty of care thing - free advice, good or bad, is legally taken very much less seriously  than that which is paid for.

    Mike.

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  • It has indeed been updated and is now quite a bit less wrong -  I wonder if  a query from Zs scared them enough to get a UK sparks to edit it  ;-)

    If so, good.

    I agree on the absent  duty of care thing - free advice, good or bad, is legally taken very much less seriously  than that which is paid for.

    Mike.

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