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Do CPS schemes like NICEIC and NAPIT have a duty of care to get their members over the line?

Sergio Fernandez

Do CPS (Competent Person Schemes)like NICEIC and NAPIT have a duty of care to get their members over the line?


Qualifications Guide (June 2025) for EAS Appendix 4 - Mandatory Technical Competence Requirements by Work Category
Produced by The Electrotechnical Skills Partnership
on behalf of the EAS Management Committee

Should the CPS be helping their members meet the requirements for EAS in the correct way?
Do the CPS even know the statistics for which of their members meet the requirements?
What about Non-CPS members, will they by default lose their title of electrician even if they have been doing the job for twenty or so years?

The UK electrical industry as a whole needs to increase its numbers but it seems there are many people who will fall foul of the system which means they will have to take complex routes to maintain their status as an electrician.  There are many electricians out there in the UK who do not own/possess a gold card or the requirements for a gold card.  

In my opinion I think that the CPS and industry as a whole have duty of care to work on a system that helps get the people that are 3/4 or less qualified to the qualifies status without it being a massive financial burden on the electrician itself.  As an example there are several well know YouTube electricians who don't have an NVQ but they have many hours of video showing their work, thus industry lead body or representative should asses their skill and convert the hours of YouTube videos (other social media platforms are available) into the NVQ and get them one stage close to Gold Card status.  

If the industry and the CPS do not help it members then there will be a very accelerated natural attrition of the UK electrician because when they go and renew the next membership or BS7671 19th edition they will no longer meet the requirements for entry of that course or membership. 


I do understand the reason for having the EAS showing the requirements for title/role but whole construction and engineer industry needs to help.  I recently heard of a plasterer who was teaching and working but was refused a a certification card for their trade.  

I wonder how many Electrical tutors there are in FE colleges in the UK?  Of those how many are fully qualified as an Electrician according to the EAS so that they are qualified to teach the courses?  I suspect it is highly possible that some tutors may need to sit there AM2 and/or produce a NVQ portfolio.




As always please be polite and respectful in this purely academic debate.





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  • I'm a bit loathe to comment on the specifics here as it's not my direct area of competence.

    Unfortunately there have been many areas where the implementation of improvement schemes have been somewhat 'ideologically' driven. These often conflate the administration of competence (gate-keeping / certification) with the actual ability to do a reasonable job.

    They can be pushed by those who are no longer 'in the trades' and are more into bureaucracy and administration. It's like needing more than a 'lawyer' to get representation at the High Court, you need a KC and a barrister, and your solicitor (or something like that), and money!

    It's always easy for administrators, who don't have to do it themselves, to say "surely, or "It's just" without any appreciation that what they asked for is unrealistic.

    If they say "Surely, it's just .." then .. run ! [Any project, any where, any time]

    Which way up is the pyramid?

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  • I'm a bit loathe to comment on the specifics here as it's not my direct area of competence.

    Unfortunately there have been many areas where the implementation of improvement schemes have been somewhat 'ideologically' driven. These often conflate the administration of competence (gate-keeping / certification) with the actual ability to do a reasonable job.

    They can be pushed by those who are no longer 'in the trades' and are more into bureaucracy and administration. It's like needing more than a 'lawyer' to get representation at the High Court, you need a KC and a barrister, and your solicitor (or something like that), and money!

    It's always easy for administrators, who don't have to do it themselves, to say "surely, or "It's just" without any appreciation that what they asked for is unrealistic.

    If they say "Surely, it's just .." then .. run ! [Any project, any where, any time]

    Which way up is the pyramid?

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