Should the term Good Workmanship in BS7671 and other BS (British Standards) be replaced by something like
Good working practice
After the wording has been agreed upon it could then percolate down to other publications like GN3 (Guidance Note 3)
As always please be polite and respectful in this purely academic debate.
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Good Workmanship
I've always found it a rather odd term to use as a requirement - as the details seem to vary considerably depending on the particular workman concerned. From what I've seen of the world there would seem to be quite a few workmen out there that seem to equate "good" or even "best" with "quick & cheap". (None here of that persuasion I'm sure, but in the wider world...)
- Andy.
"quite a few workmen out there that seem to equate "good" or even "best" with "quick & cheap".
Quite so. Far too many at the shallow end of the business.
" £50 for an electrical inspection cert, yes,,, err no I don't really need access to the property, takes about an hour..."
That sort of attitude rather blows a hole in the plans of the great and good, but is very popular as it keeps the lights on at minimal expense. The only mitigation is a well educated customer. Well I won't be recommending them ! But how many less electrically inclined will just smile and pay, not realising it is money for old rope ?
A similar problem arises with work 'to a professional standard' when discussing amateur or DIY work.
If one foolishly attempts to match the standard of a professional who is having a bad day, and is in a hurry to get off home, that so called 'professional standard' may well be worse than that of the conscientious amateur taking more time. Words like 'competent' come to mind, and then are rejected as being already loaded with another meaning.
'With diligence', 'care' and 'regard for good practice' are closer I think to what we are aiming to say...
Mike.
"quite a few workmen out there that seem to equate "good" or even "best" with "quick & cheap".
Quite so. Far too many at the shallow end of the business.
" £50 for an electrical inspection cert, yes,,, err no I don't really need access to the property, takes about an hour..."
That sort of attitude rather blows a hole in the plans of the great and good, but is very popular as it keeps the lights on at minimal expense. The only mitigation is a well educated customer. Well I won't be recommending them ! But how many less electrically inclined will just smile and pay, not realising it is money for old rope ?
A similar problem arises with work 'to a professional standard' when discussing amateur or DIY work.
If one foolishly attempts to match the standard of a professional who is having a bad day, and is in a hurry to get off home, that so called 'professional standard' may well be worse than that of the conscientious amateur taking more time. Words like 'competent' come to mind, and then are rejected as being already loaded with another meaning.
'With diligence', 'care' and 'regard for good practice' are closer I think to what we are aiming to say...
Mike.
'With diligence', 'care' and 'regard for good practice' are closer I think to what we are aiming to say...
Good choice of words
There is a lot of confusion about the subtle differences between the aspirational and the pragmatic aspects of the value cycle (like the water cycle).
In some ways we do require that we have a "shallow end of the business", just as we need criminals (and parliament to create new laws and new criminals) to extricate some of the deep-end value.
A tricky subject to discuss... (another Critical Theory problem)
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