T'was the fault before Christmas

A garbled message from a good client, pleading for assistance. Not the sort of thing you want to hear on the Friday evening before Christmas when all good electricians are wrapped around a well-deserved pint or at home snuggled up to a roaring fire or whatever one does with a heat pump.

Anyway, one of my guys was on his way home and reluctantly, but in good grace, agreed to attend. When he arrived, the NIE had already pulled the main fuse, claiming the fault at the property was “back feeding” and that the supply would not be restored until the fault was rectified. The client, with a house full of family and guests was beside himself. He had hooked up a small generator, you know the way, fed into a 13A plugtop and connected to a socket.

There really wasn’t much my guy could do, other than make a better job with the genny. So, he phoned me to report with the client listening in on speaker. The issue was in one of  three well-to-do rural properties all in a cluster, all supplied via the one DNO transformer and all TT. Single-phase 20-way board all populated with RCBOs. The client reported what the man from the NIE said about something "back feeding", but it didn’t make much sense. The penny dropped, however, when the client said that the weird thing was that when his driveway lights came on, the neighbour’s EV stopped charging!

Now on video, I asked my guy to open the consumer unit and show me the devices within. My hunch paid off, sure enough, lost in the run of RCBOs was a 10A MCB supplying the driveway lights. Why? Well, the RCBO kept tripping, so the client swapped it out for something that didn’t trip!

I assume that the neighbour’s charge point O-PEN monitoring dropped out the contactor when the neutral/earth voltage jumped out of acceptable limits.

For the moment, the power has been restored to the property, the client is happy, albeit without his driveway lights and I am content to speculate on the issue while snuggled up to my very un-renewable coal-burning stove.

Merry Christmas!

  • Presumably the NIE man saw the neighbour's  phase to earth voltages bounce about, but settle back to normal  when the house fuse was pulled. This suggests the lights probably have a phase to true earth fault, albeit one that is so good it places a greater burden on the resistance  of the electrode at the NIE transformer than it is able to comfortably withstand, and  it is unable to keep the neutral voltage in check.

    You don't say if the transformer is single or 3 phase, but if it is 3 phase, one might imagine that as your callers L-E voltage fell the reading next door appeared to rise, appearing then to be back-feeding power, when in fact another phase was pulled down, and the central star point of the TX got pushed off centre.
    I'd hope the NE voltages stayed sensible throughout, but knowing that "neutral is a line conductor" is no consolation when it is a long way off true ground.

    I don't think this will be the last NIE visit. And I won't suggest, even just for Christmas, keeping the lights on by trying a temporary L-N reversal of the lights to prove the point.

    It also begs questions if the houses are close, about if the TT electrodes are sort of shared via water pipes etc.

    Mike.

  • Several years ago I did a call out 9.00 pm on Christmas Eve to replace a burnt out fused switch at a local pub, whilst the kitchen was still serving cooking and serving food, the landlord offered to pay me cash out of the till, stupidly I said I will call back after Christmas and see if we can shift some loads off this circuit and sort the bill out with you.

    They declared themselves bankrupt straight after Christmas.