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Ai and 7671

lyledunn

When tutoring 2391, it is part of my role to encourage candidates to use 7671 and GN3 as much as possible. Those are the only printed documents permitted in the online exam. During practical training, the lads are encouraged to collaborate with each other and use said documents to check test results and design data. I note many just defer to their smart phone to access even rather obtuse data buried in the bowels of 7671. 
As much as an old timer like me likes his books, I think it is time that we acknowledge that smart phones will be the primary data source for most operatives. The exam bodies would do better to address the application of data rather than the simple ability to access it.

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    mapj1 said:
    A  more modern example to come will be something like the use of a manual gearbox on the driving test, currently a good idea,  unless you don't mind being restricted to a subset of vehicles, but electric cars will render this moot in the next few decades as they don't have gears at all.

    My 17 y.o. granddaughter is learning to stir the cogs manually, but frankly, why would anybody want a manual modern car? Auto gearboxes are much better than they once were. However, she may at some stage wish to drive an old car.

    In any event, I do not think it will be long before driving becomes unnecessary.

    I'd find it unnerving, but a child brought up that way would not worry a jot.

    mapj1 said:
    now explain school years in terms of ages

    Same here, but interestingly, "sixth form" has survived.

    mapj1 said:
    Examiners tend to think in terms of the exams they themselves did, as well as the ones set last year.

    I suspect that whether it's 3 hours with an unlimited supply of paper, or remote open book with a deadline, the same people will still get the distinctions and the strugglers will struggle. Doubtless educationalists will have the evidence.

    What does need to be avoided is plagiarism, so be careful how you use AI.

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    mapj1 said:
    my parents grew up with open fires and were much happier with matches and newspaper, in later years they had central heating, and I had to program their timer as well

    I am sitting before one right now (fire, not timer). My desk sitting in the 120 year old draughty bay window left me with no choice 'cos I was cold. Problem is that I didn't have a timer, so it was only by mid-afternoon that the room became warm.

    However, Mr and Mrs Fred Blake had no such problem. Their timer was one of the five domestiques who got up bright and early, cleared the grate, and got a new fire going. (Or could have banked it up overnight.)

  • 0 in reply to Chris Pearson

    AI does have it's place.  A suitably qualified and competent person could/can use AI to help in their productivity because if AI offers a suggestion that is totally wrong the person will know it is wrong and not blindly follow it.  You can take the early stories of people using SatNav and ending up in rivers or the sea as an analogy.  BUT a person that does NOT have correct subject knowledge/competence/experience could/would be lead astray.

    Therefor You're only as good as your tools and If you know your tools, you will maintain them, choose the right ones, and know how to use them effectively

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