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The car park

Sergio Fernandez

There are several main types of car park in the UK

Open air
Multi-storey open sided
Basement
Basement with dwellings or commercial space above

The UK is seeing a large move towards EV (Electric Vehicles) from traditional ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) there have also been several well documented Car park fires in the last decade.  Eg Luton Airport Car park October 2023 with over 1500 vehicles destroyed or damaged

Should all UK Car Parks apart from Open air have 
Fire detection with 24/7/365 monitoring with backup power supply
Increase amount of manual fire call points per floor and throughout stairwells to increase evacuation alert
EVSE auto shut off for power in the event of a fire or an alarm
Battery backup for emergency lights for a min of 6 hours
Increased amount of illuminated fire exits signs
Fire resistant cabling throughout
Fire restitant cable management/containment throughout
Increase IP rating throughout in case of fire due to the amount of water that may be used
Annual EICR
Technology/Mechanisms to assist evacuation of disabled and mobility impaired persons, this could include evacuation lift replacing the passenger lift



As always please be polite and respectful in this purely academic debate.





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  • "The UK is seeing a large move towards EV (Electric Vehicles) from traditional ICE (Internal Combustion Engine)"

    if that is Battery EV, then please ... i hope not   (for various reasons)   as then all the 'solutions' needed for it just go away and sanity (at least for me)  returns.  :-)

  • in reply to psychicwarrior

    The plan of course is for no brand new petrol and diesel cars to be sold in the UK after 2030, and that may well occur.

    This article shows the trends with some nice graphs. 

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/choosing/road-to-electric/ 

    This graph below is pretty good, overall sales of new cars are declining, but the fraction of new cars that are some kind of EV, is very much on the rise.

    Bear in mind however that there are some 35 million roadworthy cars in the UK in total, and the average petrol car is just over ten years old, and the average Diesel a few months younger. ( www.racfoundation.org/motoring-faqs/mobility#a9 ) so unlesss there is a step change, then up to perhaps 2050 there will still be a lot of internal combustion engines on the road. 

    Mike.

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  • in reply to psychicwarrior

    The plan of course is for no brand new petrol and diesel cars to be sold in the UK after 2030, and that may well occur.

    This article shows the trends with some nice graphs. 

    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/choosing/road-to-electric/ 

    This graph below is pretty good, overall sales of new cars are declining, but the fraction of new cars that are some kind of EV, is very much on the rise.

    Bear in mind however that there are some 35 million roadworthy cars in the UK in total, and the average petrol car is just over ten years old, and the average Diesel a few months younger. ( www.racfoundation.org/motoring-faqs/mobility#a9 ) so unlesss there is a step change, then up to perhaps 2050 there will still be a lot of internal combustion engines on the road. 

    Mike.

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  • in reply to mapj1
    mapj1 said:
    The plan of course is for no brand new petrol and diesel cars to be sold in the UK after 2030, and that may well occur.

    No pure ICE cars after 2030, but the current plan will permit hybrids until 2035.

    I rather like Mercedes' approach - bring F1 technology to road vehicles. Add a 200 bhp motor and small but powerful battery to your 600 bhp ICE. That makes it accelerate faster, they can sell it for longer, it falls into a lower tax bracket, and apparently will use less fuel.

    So, they now have 9 years to get the new F1 technology out there. Don't get me started on the, "50% of the power comes from the battery" nonsense, but the road to success would seem to be highly dependent upon harvesting every last joule in the braking zones.

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