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is this the 'new' purpose for carrying out EICRs

psychicwarrior

leaving names out of it ... from an advert for an inspector job at a firm covering nationwide:

"...

Paying between £7-£8 per circuit but the sell on this is that the testing needs to be thorough to produce a comprehensive remedials list which we will be able to price to the client and pick up the works and give the candidate all of that work on the back of the test.

We are informed that the vast majority of the sites are in a poor condition so good commercial testers should be able to generate a good amount of remedial works. We also need engineers who will be able to carry out the remedial works themselves.

..."

it reads: 'we do a [low paid] EICR,   to generate [higher paid] work' ...  maybe this is how it has always been and i missed this aspect of it .

  • Anyone who thinks UK installations are 'mostly in a poor condition' should travel more, to places with twisted joints in singles in the installation,  and bare ended wires stuffed into sockets, and perhaps also take a look to the accident figures for electric shock, burns and fires here, and there.
    And then try to subtract appliance related stuff, as except overloading for not enough sockets that's not really a fixed wiring issue, and subtract cooking fires, as they actually involve things are supposed to get hot....

    However, as a dyed in the wool cynic, yes, that reads to me as

    'you can find profitable stuff to do on most installations'

    and I'm sure you can. If it really was something that needed addressing urgently or was more of a small non-ideality, and could have been left for a few more years,  well its so hard for the average customer to tell, it cannot be proven.
    But, I don't think its exactly a new phenomenon, maybe you have been lucky and missed it.

    Personally, I'd recommend anyone getting inspection and remedial work to at least give the impression that someone who is not connected to the the inspector will be asked to quote for any rework recommended. Like the padlock on my garden shed, its not great security but it keeps honest people honest by removing a very easy temptation.
    Mike

  • in reply to mapj1
    mapj1 said:
    Personally, I'd recommend anyone getting inspection and remedial work to at least give the impression that someone who is not connected to the the inspector will be asked to quote for any rework recommended.

    Rather like cut-price MOTs which result in £££ of remedials.

  • To me this reads like a SCAM.  They are asking you to do the best EICR and then MAYBE you will get the remedial work.

    So lets say you EICR my house £8 per circuit and I have 10 cicuits in CU thus £80.

    Question how much time is allocated to inspect and test a circuit?  Say 20 to 30 mins per circuit the house EICR will take approx 3 to 4 hours.  Therefor MAYBE you can do 2 EICR per day.

    Lets say the remedial comes out at £600.  There is nothing to stop that company saying to another person the work is your for £500.  Don't worry you will get a comprehensive EICR to work from.

    The company doing the advert has now played both the EICR person and the remedial works person on price.

    Let me also play devils advocate and ask

    What happens IF you can not gain access to the premises for whatever reason?  Who covers that cost?

  • in reply to Sergio Fernandez

    The company doing the advert has now played both the EICR person and the remedial works person on price.

    But they are hopefully both professional and will see the issues if not before they sign up, at least at the end of the first week or two. 
    The bigger victims are the repeated hapless customers, paying for work done that is not needed.
    Later when this slowly soaks into the collective conscience ,  the professional standing of everyone involved takes a dive, as as all electrician's join the bench with  speed talking double glazing salesmen, and the chaps who can resurface your drive but you have to pay cash today cos his mate has a bit left over from a council job... as all being untrustworthy shysters and part of 'rip-off Britain' .

    And that is the biggest and most unfair loss of the lot. It only takes a few being a bit too greedy to spoil it for the many.

    Mike.

  • in reply to mapj1

    Some customers are more savvy than others. My new neighbour knows that his Type AC RCDs are out of date. His socket tester has also told him that the downstairs sockets have no earth. However, that isn't a problem, 'cos the appliances (modern tellies, etc.) don't need one.

  • in reply to Chris Pearson
    Chris Pearson said:
    downstairs sockets have no earth. However, that isn't a problem, 'cos the appliances (modern tellies, etc.) don't need one

    Not sure that statement makes them very Savvy.  May they could AI

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