An electrical experiment for Easter

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Introduction

Electrocution has been reported due to the use of a mobile phone in a bath whilst it is plugged into a charger (https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/1001/1536213-inquest-anne-marie-ogorman/). The aim of this study was to establish whether the output of a mobile phone charger can present a risk to the user.

Method

A 5% solution of sodium chloride was placed in stainless steel bowl. The bowl was connected to the earth pin of a twin BS 1363 socket-outlet via an ammeter with a 10 mA full-scale deflection (Avometer Eight Mk 6). A USB charger (Apple Model A1696) was plugged into the adjacent socket-outlet. A USB-C to USB-C cable was plugged into the charger and the other end was immersed in the sodium chloride solution. The charger was energized.

Correct function of the charger was confirmed after the experiment. Confirmation that the earth was effective was obtained by measuring the earth fault loop impedance at the socket outlet.

Results

No current flow was detected. The EFLI was 0.80 ohms.

Discussion

These findings do not confirm the hypothesis that the use of a mobile phone which is connected to a charger whilst taking a bath gives rise to a risk of an electric shock. It may be that the risk exists only if the individual is in contact with the charger itself, or the charger becomes immersed. Further work is required to investigate this alternative hypothesis.

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  • A USB charger (Apple Model A1696) was plugged into the adjacent socket-outlet. A USB-C to USB-C cable was plugged into the charger and the other end was immersed in the sodium chloride solution. The charger was energized.

    Correct function of the charger was confirmed after the experiment. Confirmation that the earth was effective was obtained by measuring the earth fault loop impedance at the socket outlet.

    Results

    No current flow was detected. The EFLI was 0.80 ohms.

    I would question whether your experimental technique is a valid representation of the real-world risk of a USB device in water, because the more recent versions of the USB standards, including USB-C are not a simple, always-on, DC power supply but rather they have a set of communications protocols and hand-shaking between the host and the connected device, whereby they communicate details of the respective devices, power capacity (volts/amps) and (from a quick skim read of Wiki) it looks like the host (i.e power supply) might be checking for certain conditions at the device end of the cable before powering up the supply. 

    So it's possible that with a compliant USB-C power supply and USB-C cable, the plug you immersed into the solution may not have been powered up at 5V at all.

    There's also the question of 'Power Delivery' functions which allow the USB power supply to raise the supply voltage above 5V depending on the connected device, in a real-world situation a lot of newer USB-C power supplies have PD functionality, so connected to a phone could be providing upto 20V if turbo-charging the phone, but to test that would require a suitable power supply and device on the end of the cable, or some other way of ensuring the power supply was outputting the higher voltage onto the USB-C plug when immersing it into water.

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  • A USB charger (Apple Model A1696) was plugged into the adjacent socket-outlet. A USB-C to USB-C cable was plugged into the charger and the other end was immersed in the sodium chloride solution. The charger was energized.

    Correct function of the charger was confirmed after the experiment. Confirmation that the earth was effective was obtained by measuring the earth fault loop impedance at the socket outlet.

    Results

    No current flow was detected. The EFLI was 0.80 ohms.

    I would question whether your experimental technique is a valid representation of the real-world risk of a USB device in water, because the more recent versions of the USB standards, including USB-C are not a simple, always-on, DC power supply but rather they have a set of communications protocols and hand-shaking between the host and the connected device, whereby they communicate details of the respective devices, power capacity (volts/amps) and (from a quick skim read of Wiki) it looks like the host (i.e power supply) might be checking for certain conditions at the device end of the cable before powering up the supply. 

    So it's possible that with a compliant USB-C power supply and USB-C cable, the plug you immersed into the solution may not have been powered up at 5V at all.

    There's also the question of 'Power Delivery' functions which allow the USB power supply to raise the supply voltage above 5V depending on the connected device, in a real-world situation a lot of newer USB-C power supplies have PD functionality, so connected to a phone could be providing upto 20V if turbo-charging the phone, but to test that would require a suitable power supply and device on the end of the cable, or some other way of ensuring the power supply was outputting the higher voltage onto the USB-C plug when immersing it into water.

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