TN-C-S (PNB) versus TN-C-S (PME).

How good are you at telling the difference?

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  • yuk!  unbalanced  neutral current by design.  And no lower covers fitted over the rubber trouser sleeves.

  • yuk!  unbalanced  neutral current by design.  And no lower covers fitted over the rubber trouser sleeves.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen 3-phase installations fed by three single core concentric overheads - so such things might not be too far from the norm in DNO land. I presume the incoming cables are modern concentrics with copper rather than steel "armour" - so no induced currents to worry about and the line conductors will have their own insulation underneath the trouser boot, so insulation+sheath overall. DNO's don't regard Ns as hazardous. Assuming the two supplies are on different phases the (and not too many nasty harmonics in the load) then the N current shouldn't exceed that of one phase, so no overloading issues. I might have preferred to see both cables run much closer together from an EMI perspective and perhaps the two N linked, just as a nicety and reduce N v.d. a bit.

       - Andy.

  •  If both phase are say loaded to 100A, then the neutral is - 100A, yes, as the missing third phase would sum to zero,  and this is a worst case, but its horrible from an EMC point of view or for 3rd harmonics, and at any point those cables may go through a metal hole. Not to mention the massive extra magnetic field, some associated extra volt drop, and probably not great for loop hearing aids either.

    Mike.

  • It’s not three-phase, but it does appear to be TN-C-S (PNB).

  • The phases are at 180 degrees, not 120.

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