2 x 3 amp appliances on unfused 32 amp cooker spur - safety issue?

Hi Viv, you also have my sympathies. You want a working kitchen, but want it to be safe.

Can you post pictures of the data plates (labels) of both appliances please. There should be one under the hob, with a GC number, make and model, and the same on the oven, either on the frame behind the door or behind the oven.

Perhaps we can find the installation instructions for them online.

The oven was from Stoves and I think they hob was from MFI. Thanks for all your help btw

Found the oven one

STOVES NEWHOME GL716 USER & INSTALLATION HANDBOOK Pdf Download | ManualsLib https://share.google/axlyXyWxUeUBmbrav

The hob one is harder to find, obsolete. I assume both appliances are yours Viv and are being re-fitted into your new kitchen?

These will be tricky to re-install, it's late now, will look again tomorrow 

Edit; do you live in a flat, or a house?

Thanks for that, it's a house. Yes, both the appliances are mine. This is what it used to look like (taken when regrouting the tiles) with the fridge-freezer out of shot - very dated and old fashioned

This is the plan

So not much has changed except the fridge-freezer is now by the back door and the dishwasher is supposed to be flush (it was about 4mm sticking outwards because of a gas pipe)

The dishwasher has not changed place, or the oven and hob. The fridge-freezer cannot be plugged in without moving an inch or two away from the wall, same with the dishwasher as they haven't moved the pipe as agreed and both have the electrical sockets directly behind them. I will fit fused FCUs after they have gone so I can plug them in. They are telling me that this is 'council specification'. I think they forgot the power supply needed for the hob and oven and are trying to do a bit of a bodge now to save costs, rather than admit their mistake. I cannot see why they moved all the sockets when it was ok in the first place, as not many changes needed to be made. Instead of fixing one problem, there are now lots.

I've printed out the installation part in the manual, which clearly states that a 3amp fuse is needed and left it on top of the cooker for them.

Hi,

The obvious bodge if they don't want to re-plaster is to surface mount a double socket and connect it to the cooker outlet, assuming that the cooker outlet is protected by a 32A or less breaker.

I certainly would not be permitting them to cut the plugs off your appliances - they don't seem to understand overcurrent protection very well and by retaining the plugs they don't have any way of omitting a suitable fuse.

The oven instructions say the space behind the oven should be kept clear, this means no cooker outlet, double socket etc in my opinion.

Is there a gas safe installer on site? They should be following technical bulletin 022  Installation of previously used and second-hand domestic gas cooking appliances. Also check their gas safe card.

Gas installers must follow manufacturers' instructions, whereas electricians must take account of them, slight difference there.

Viv said:

I have attached a picture so you can see the problem. This is how it is at the moment, awaiting fitting

If that switch controls the cooker outlet, it could be replaced by an FCU with a 3 A fuse. I doubt that the sum of the currents would amount to more.

If the next occupier wants an electric cooker, it can always be changed back.

Here is tb022 shieldheating.co.uk/.../tb-022-installation-of-previously-used-domestic-gas-cooking-appliances.pdf

And here is tb025 which I think is also relevant tb-025-contractor-responsibility-when-disconnecting-and-reconnecting-gas-cooking-appliances.pdf share.google/kd4Ce0VBEwR2oNrfE