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Have Faith in the IET

So there, I said it.

Over the years I have been doubtfull as to the direction and culture at the IET.

I started life as a sparky from Tottenham, I was placed straight into the managment of jobs and worked my way up the ladder as you do...

I watched updates to the wiring regulations change for what is seen by a majority (of the south east of the UKs shop floor sparks) as not for the betterment of the trade and devaluing an industry.

I joined the IET over 10 years ago as a member and started filling in the forms for IEng. Jobs being what they are nowadays (fire fighting poor design and programmes) I never got round to finishing it, I never had a mentor either, I am, and was deemed too controversial to support I suppose. But needed by employers to fix/solve problems .

Still this week I just got my confimation of CEng status....(yes yes yes yes) after the hardest form filling and amazing interview ever. The best part if I have no degree, no HNC/HND just 20 years EXPERIENCE!

Am I proud hell yeah, was it worth it, hell yeah, what will I do next? well I want to inspire kids from council estate that they too can break down the nay sayers and attain the highest level of their trade, I speak regulary at technical seminars and industry conferences and want to give back.....

That what the IET has given me the confidence, ability and gaul I never knew I had in me.. I am hoping theywill let me now be an ENG Tech assessor and a PRA / PRI if they will have me... and yes I have every confidence that eventually (and it is happening now) they will see the damage done to the trade by last few ammednments to BS 7671 and install a committe of non-commercially influenced shop floor representatives to direct it to the land of common sense.

The interviewers were great and office support fantastic...

So the mesage is get involved and feed back in constructive if not direct way, and have faith in the IET.

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0 Former Community Member over 7 years ago

You have spoken true words, i have started my application from scratch with the institute of Water but it is truly a shame that i won't be able to assist IET become multidisciplinary institute. I got my assessment report today from IET with all the redacted names. There wasn't a single person on the panel from the water industry or Asset management sector. The worst part was reading the comments of the interviewers who were instructed prior to my interview to probe my application and presentation on Competency B. After an 1hr and 15 mins of interview, my assessors were only able to ask me one question each, but it was clear these were question not to probe me but to justify the inherent decision they had already made before the interview. Their report stated i lacked the basic knowledge of first principles of pipe design, after approximatly two years of sizing, designing, constructing and providing engineering design solutions for resilience and pressure related water network issues.

When instructed to probe they don't mean ask one fall question each. The academic lecturer asked me if i accounted for surge in my calculation and i told him no. All manufacturers allow 20% of the permissible operating pressure for any transient surge pressures in water main. It is only in extreme situations where the risk of getting surge pressures is present and the consequence is high that allowance is made for surge by the designer. He would have known this if he had ever worked on a construction site or undertaken a feasibility study for different design options. Another reason why an Academic should only be allowed to assess and Academic applicant. It's weird that out of all the technical knowledge i demonstrated in my application, presentation and calculations, the two things they asked me and we didn't agree on made them come to the conclusion i don't understand basic principles of pipe design.
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0 Former Community Member over 7 years ago

You have spoken true words, i have started my application from scratch with the institute of Water but it is truly a shame that i won't be able to assist IET become multidisciplinary institute. I got my assessment report today from IET with all the redacted names. There wasn't a single person on the panel from the water industry or Asset management sector. The worst part was reading the comments of the interviewers who were instructed prior to my interview to probe my application and presentation on Competency B. After an 1hr and 15 mins of interview, my assessors were only able to ask me one question each, but it was clear these were question not to probe me but to justify the inherent decision they had already made before the interview. Their report stated i lacked the basic knowledge of first principles of pipe design, after approximatly two years of sizing, designing, constructing and providing engineering design solutions for resilience and pressure related water network issues.

When instructed to probe they don't mean ask one fall question each. The academic lecturer asked me if i accounted for surge in my calculation and i told him no. All manufacturers allow 20% of the permissible operating pressure for any transient surge pressures in water main. It is only in extreme situations where the risk of getting surge pressures is present and the consequence is high that allowance is made for surge by the designer. He would have known this if he had ever worked on a construction site or undertaken a feasibility study for different design options. Another reason why an Academic should only be allowed to assess and Academic applicant. It's weird that out of all the technical knowledge i demonstrated in my application, presentation and calculations, the two things they asked me and we didn't agree on made them come to the conclusion i don't understand basic principles of pipe design.
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