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DOES IET MAINTAIN ITS 2006 OBJECTIVES FOR ALL

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The Institution of Engineering and Technology (IET) is the largest multidisciplinary professional engineering institution in the world.
Does IET satisfy the aspirations of all its members and potential Professional Engineer members of both genders in the UK?

At the creation of IET in 2006, all members of IET, MIET, were considered to be equal. It was a multidisciplinary PEI for all PE grades and associates of both genders.

We have lost many IEng members.
We have lost many IIE CEng members.
We do not value and do not attract new IEng members, not to mention women and technicians (6% + 1%).
We have done very little to attract women into the Technology disciplines at any of the grades.
Technicians are not really taken into account in IET or in the UK.

This is an IET problem; it seems to be a typical UK PEI problem, or even a UK society problem.

Do the Council, the Board and IET Staff (nearly 500) uphold 2006 vales today?
Have we drifted away from our 2006 objectives?

I have my personal observations; these IET blogs show great discontent, and the UK PE & PEI statistics are deplorable.
I believe that IET has, over the last 10 years, lost its “cap”; it satisfies only a small part of IET membership.
There is perhaps a reason; to work in Technology in the UK today you need to be ECUK registered. To be ECUK registered you need to join a PEI.
IET is the only multidisciplinary PEI open to generalists and novel Technologists.

Do Professional Engineers join just to have access to Technology posts in this hard competitive world?
Do they join for the title and just ignore the objectives of IET in 2006?

Should we continue on this path or should IET change?

John Gowman – MIET 

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    What do you expect from your PEI – IET
    An open question (1)to IET.

    • What do you expect from your professional engineering institute PEI?

    • Why did you join IET?

    • Was it to be UK EC Professional Engineer PE registered or was it for other reasons?


     
    To register as a professional engineer PE with the United Kingdom Engineering Council UK EC you must first be a member of a PEI. To be a registered PE with IET you must pass through a peer review held by IET approved PR Assessors PRA. This is not the requirement of the UK EC.
    As a PE you have already obtained through academic study and national examinations a HNC, BSc, or MSc, note MBA is not an engineering qualification. Your results are in a national register, and even published in the Daily Telegraph.
    To be a registered PE, UK EC you need further engineering practical experience. This is shown on you CV and your work certificates. Note to lie about your qualifications or experience could lead you to imprisonment.
    References are banned in many countries and this should be the case in the UK, if only it was.
    There are HR recruiting agencies with professional people to assess and verify job applicants’ qualifications and experience. So why do we need Professional advisors and assessors? They are of no utility.
    So if you join a PEI for simply UK EC PE registration, you are going through a totally useless procedure.

     
    Is IET or any other PEI a private club, or community, purely for an elite community and one-upmanship?

     
    What other reasons are there for joining a PEI and in our case IET?
    I joined and soon became a leader in the PEI - ITEME, I joined as I was working abroad for HM Government and wanted to keep in touch with engineering and technology advances and to broaden my personal engineering knowledge. ITEME was a great help. ITEME went on to become IET. ITEME was then in the mechanical technology sector, including scientific research. The big physics experiments are huge mechanical constructions.

     
    ITEME amalgamated and I pushed for these amalgamations, we became the Institute of Incorporated Engineers - IIE. This was a PEI for both genders; for all grades, from Technician to Technologist, to PE and to specialists MSC (CEng); including associates such as Para- engineering and scientific disciplines. We were exclusively a UK PEI for UK PEs and residents in the UK, as well as UK citizens working abroad.
    You will have noticed that this is the motto of IET.

     
    For me the aim of IIE and now IET was to:

    • Promote the profession

    • To encourage PE membership and UK EC PE registration

    • To review professional qualifications

    • To qualify PEs who came through the practical long route for UK EC

    • To encourage Continual professional development CPD

    • To promote professional training

    • To widen the basic competences of PEs

    • To help PEs become specialists at I eng or CEng levels.


     
    It was not to create an elitist society where one member grade would rule over other grades. We were all equal in our competences.

    • We did not need Peer Reviews for membership, I never had a peer review, my qualifications and work certificates were enough.

    • Do we need peer reviews in IET?

    • Do we need peer review advisors in IET?


     
    I was co-editor of our journal, we tried to obtain articles on our profession, we used job adverts for PEs, we had publicity for engineering items.
    Our journal had no science fiction and was peer reviewed.

     
    What do we need from IET apart from UK EC PE registration?

     
    J Gowman MIET

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