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Former Community Member
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i Have recently had my loft converted into a bedroom with an en-suite, my issue lays there is very little room in the en-suite and from the floor to the ceiling is 1.8m , will 230v IP rated downlights be okay in there? Or will these have to be 12v?
  • What is the IP rating?

  • Clint:

    i Have recently had my loft converted into a bedroom with an en-suite, my issue lays there is very little room in the en-suite and from the floor to the ceiling is 1.8m , will 230v IP rated downlights be okay in there? Or will these have to be 12v?




    701.55. In Zone 1 luminaires may be installed if fixed and permanently connected, provided they are suitable for installation in Zone 1 according to the manufacturer's instructions.


    Z.

  • Don't forget 701.411.3.3. An R.C.D. is required for low Voltage circuits serving the location and also not serving the location but passing through Zones 1 and/or 2. (415.11).


    Z.
  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    Don’t worry circuit is RCD protected, could anybody recommend a suitable downlights which would be suited for what I need?

  • Clint:

    Don’t worry circuit is RCD protected, could anybody recommend a suitable downlights which would be suited for what I need? 




     

    Only if you tell us what you need. Which may be suitably IP protected luminaires for (1) above a shower i.e. zone 1; (2) beside it i.e. zone 2; or (3) further away.

  • there is very little room in the en-suite and from the floor to the ceiling is 1.8m



    I'm a bit surprised that got past Building Control... the likes of me wouldn't even able able to stand up under that. (I know the old precise minimum ceiling height regulations have gone, but I thought there was still a requirement for reasonableness...).


    Anyhow, downlighters and low ceilings aren't necessarily a good mix - walk under a light like that and all that will be lit the the very top of someone's head - the rest of the area served by that light being plunged into shadow (and probably an uncomfortable warming of the scalp too) and probably not optically very comfortable either - having bright sourced so close to eye-line. Might wall lights be better?


       - Andy.
  • The minimum ceiling height requirement came from an old public health act to provide ventilation for gas lights and was then incorporated into building regulations.


    The requirement was dropped as generally people don’t have gas lights and if they do they are now covered by gas regulations.


    Andy

  • AJJewsbury:




    there is very little room in the en-suite and from the floor to the ceiling is 1.8m



    I'm a bit surprised that got past Building Control... the likes of me wouldn't even able able to stand up under that. (I know the old precise minimum ceiling height regulations have gone, but I thought there was still a requirement for reasonableness...).


    Seems reasonable to me - 5' 7". ?


    So is this a shower room or a bathroom? If the former, that must require a bit of contortion to wash one's hair.

  • Former Community Member
    0 Former Community Member
    Sorry about the delayed reply. The downlights are already drilled and cables in place. It has a shower, toilet and sick. Very little space but it all was very tight space up there.


    Anyway, I just need someone to point me to suitable downlights for this?
  • Shame about the vomit!

    I can recommend KSR QR10 downlights which are IP65.  The driver is separate from the light which can be a help if space above is tight. The Collingwood H2pro 550 is also IP65. You can choose a wide beam angle which is sometimes better if there is limited height. I have no attachment to either company.


    Dave