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What is the best way to wire ceiling lights?

The ceiling rose junction box with its loop-in wiring is now really showing its age and is no longer a practical (or even safe) installation for most residents who wish to install fancy light fittings. It is still, however, the most common arrangement for new build houses and rewires, probably as the result of the electrician's training and how they consider it to be the norm or they cannot think of (potentially better) alternatives.


So, what is the best way to wire ceiling lights? Should neutral wires be taken to the switches or not?
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  • If I have to replace a ceiling rose with a stupidly designed fitting (John Lewis are the worst for supplying them) that has no real space to terminate, my favoured method is to slightly enlarge the cable hole, and make off into a small wago lighting box, which then fits back up through the hole.


    If starting from scratch, we typically now loop at the  light switch unless it's all bog standard pendants.  If I had my own choice, I'd use the RB4 option with one large junction box as mentioned above.


    One more followon question, if looping at the switch, would you fit a 3 core from switch to light, allowing for independent switching of a light/ceiling fan? or only if specified by the customer?
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  • If I have to replace a ceiling rose with a stupidly designed fitting (John Lewis are the worst for supplying them) that has no real space to terminate, my favoured method is to slightly enlarge the cable hole, and make off into a small wago lighting box, which then fits back up through the hole.


    If starting from scratch, we typically now loop at the  light switch unless it's all bog standard pendants.  If I had my own choice, I'd use the RB4 option with one large junction box as mentioned above.


    One more followon question, if looping at the switch, would you fit a 3 core from switch to light, allowing for independent switching of a light/ceiling fan? or only if specified by the customer?
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