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What is the best way to wire ceiling lights?

The ceiling rose junction box with its loop-in wiring is now really showing its age and is no longer a practical (or even safe) installation for most residents who wish to install fancy light fittings. It is still, however, the most common arrangement for new build houses and rewires, probably as the result of the electrician's training and how they consider it to be the norm or they cannot think of (potentially better) alternatives.


So, what is the best way to wire ceiling lights? Should neutral wires be taken to the switches or not?
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  • wallywombat:

    Personally I think that brown sleeving with a white stripe should be allowed, and used to indicate a switched live.




    I cannot argue with that.


    During my training (if I recall correctly, which cannot be assumed ? ) we were told that a short length of brown sleeving as opposed to sleeving a whole length of cable means switched line. That seems reasonable, but on the other hand, take 3 browns in singles for 3 phase (cheaper than buying 3 reels) marked by no, black, and grey sleeves. Must they all be long?


    Short lengths of brown sleeving may easily fall off, which is clearly unsatisfactory. Neither is a wee bit of sticky 20 year old insulating tape (in red).


    So yes, I like the idea of identifying switched line in a special way. 18th+1 DPC?

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  • wallywombat:

    Personally I think that brown sleeving with a white stripe should be allowed, and used to indicate a switched live.




    I cannot argue with that.


    During my training (if I recall correctly, which cannot be assumed ? ) we were told that a short length of brown sleeving as opposed to sleeving a whole length of cable means switched line. That seems reasonable, but on the other hand, take 3 browns in singles for 3 phase (cheaper than buying 3 reels) marked by no, black, and grey sleeves. Must they all be long?


    Short lengths of brown sleeving may easily fall off, which is clearly unsatisfactory. Neither is a wee bit of sticky 20 year old insulating tape (in red).


    So yes, I like the idea of identifying switched line in a special way. 18th+1 DPC?

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