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What is the best way to wire ceiling lights?

The ceiling rose junction box with its loop-in wiring is now really showing its age and is no longer a practical (or even safe) installation for most residents who wish to install fancy light fittings. It is still, however, the most common arrangement for new build houses and rewires, probably as the result of the electrician's training and how they consider it to be the norm or they cannot think of (potentially better) alternatives.


So, what is the best way to wire ceiling lights? Should neutral wires be taken to the switches or not?
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  • This might be cynical to say this but could it be possible that electricians like ceiling rose junction boxes with loop-in wiring for a good reason other than ease and costs of initial installation? They provide a lucrative source of income from residents who want to install fancy ceiling lights but are terrified at the sight of a complex interconnection of 3 cables when they unscrew the cover of a ceiling rose, then conclude it's beyond their capability to rewire it correctly so they call in an electrician instead.. Replacing a ceiling rose with a fancy light fitting may be a bit fiddly in practice but it's easy going routine work for an electrician with the knowledge of how the wires are connected. They can also charge a one-off cost at a higher price than their standard hourly labour rate. As Arthur Daley would say - "nice little earner".


    If the lighting circuit is arranged so that there is just one cable connected to the ceiling rose then it could be said with confidence that the resident would be much more likely to be able to install the light fitting themself rather than ending up calling in an electrician.


    Therefore alternatives to the ceiling rose junction box with loop-in wiring that results in just one cable connected to the ceiling rose or light fitting are potentially another instance of technology that puts people out of a job.
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  • This might be cynical to say this but could it be possible that electricians like ceiling rose junction boxes with loop-in wiring for a good reason other than ease and costs of initial installation? They provide a lucrative source of income from residents who want to install fancy ceiling lights but are terrified at the sight of a complex interconnection of 3 cables when they unscrew the cover of a ceiling rose, then conclude it's beyond their capability to rewire it correctly so they call in an electrician instead.. Replacing a ceiling rose with a fancy light fitting may be a bit fiddly in practice but it's easy going routine work for an electrician with the knowledge of how the wires are connected. They can also charge a one-off cost at a higher price than their standard hourly labour rate. As Arthur Daley would say - "nice little earner".


    If the lighting circuit is arranged so that there is just one cable connected to the ceiling rose then it could be said with confidence that the resident would be much more likely to be able to install the light fitting themself rather than ending up calling in an electrician.


    Therefore alternatives to the ceiling rose junction box with loop-in wiring that results in just one cable connected to the ceiling rose or light fitting are potentially another instance of technology that puts people out of a job.
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