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What is the best way to wire ceiling lights?

The ceiling rose junction box with its loop-in wiring is now really showing its age and is no longer a practical (or even safe) installation for most residents who wish to install fancy light fittings. It is still, however, the most common arrangement for new build houses and rewires, probably as the result of the electrician's training and how they consider it to be the norm or they cannot think of (potentially better) alternatives.


So, what is the best way to wire ceiling lights? Should neutral wires be taken to the switches or not?
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  • I must admit that my mindset was carved in late 60s/early 70s and like most of us we stick to what is familiar as "the" way to do things.

    I see nothing "wrong" with looping in at the rose and that usually is my first choice but I freely admit that looping in at switch or alternatively joint box also have their merits too, you just need to think slightly differently.


    Complications do arise when you do a mix about the same system or worse still on the same system.


    Lighting systems therefore can be more difficult to follow and therefore fault find. It`s the switching arragement that often complicates it compared to straightforward rings and radials. In fact I met a few that  could not figure out use of three core and earth for two way switching, especially the ones who were brought up on singles. I even met two who joined a conductor at the T&E/3C& E junction in a switchbox to emulate the singles way of doing (I hope that makes sense)
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  • I must admit that my mindset was carved in late 60s/early 70s and like most of us we stick to what is familiar as "the" way to do things.

    I see nothing "wrong" with looping in at the rose and that usually is my first choice but I freely admit that looping in at switch or alternatively joint box also have their merits too, you just need to think slightly differently.


    Complications do arise when you do a mix about the same system or worse still on the same system.


    Lighting systems therefore can be more difficult to follow and therefore fault find. It`s the switching arragement that often complicates it compared to straightforward rings and radials. In fact I met a few that  could not figure out use of three core and earth for two way switching, especially the ones who were brought up on singles. I even met two who joined a conductor at the T&E/3C& E junction in a switchbox to emulate the singles way of doing (I hope that makes sense)
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