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Smart switch alexa is does it count

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So looking through regs items need to be switched to be controlled. So does an Alexa for type switch count. If you run a normal switch then add Alexa bulb say at some point someone will turn off the switch and the item will over time deprogramme. Therefore you could short back of switch giving constant power and solving problem but is that within the regs?
  • I have livened this sort up with a pair of compasses (using my handkerchief as basic insulation) when the holder had been removed to disable something.

      I was at school at the time, and we wanted to get the 5A socket on to power a 2kw heater in the maths class.

    It maybe that most of modern youth are less gung-ho than we were , but I'm not sure that all are.

  • (a fused spur where you can remove the fuse works unless you're plagued with malicious pixies).


    I've yet to see a fused spur that doesn't accept a padlock.



    But only on TN systems with main bonding - otherwise (TT or TN without main bonding) then N needs to be isolated too. (That's assuming that you understand the rest of the requirements of 461.2 (I still don't) and your TN system complies.)


      - Andy.

  • AJJewsbury:




    (a fused spur where you can remove the fuse works unless you're plagued with malicious pixies).


    I've yet to see a fused spur that doesn't accept a padlock.



    But only on TN systems with main bonding - otherwise (TT or TN without main bonding) then N needs to be isolated too. (That's assuming that you understand the rest of the requirements of 461.2 (I still don't) and your TN system complies.)


    I think that BOD was saying that if you unscrew and pull out the fuse tray, you can pop in a lock-out padlock. Mind you, it would have to be a small one.


  • mapj1:

    I have livened this sort up with a pair of compasses (using my handkerchief as basic insulation) when the holder had been removed to disable something.

      I was at school at the time, and we wanted to get the 5A socket on to power a 2kw heater in the maths class.

    It maybe that most of modern youth are less gung-ho than we were , but I'm not sure that all are.




    No padlock there - sorry BOD! 


    Crikey Mike, it's a wonder that you survived school - we already know about the theatre electrics. Did you distill hooch (possibly only a rap on the knuckles nowadays) or make explosives (lock up and throw away the key in 2019!)?

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    I think that BOD was saying that if you unscrew and pull out the fuse tray, you can pop in a lock-out padlock. Mind you, it would have to be a small one.


    Yes, just keeping it simple Chris! Amazing how many "electricians" don't realise the integral locking facility is there.


    Check your "bell symbol" top right sometime Chris.


    Regards


    BOD
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  • In my garage I have some brand new  unused ES fluorescent lamps with a built in photo cell to turn them on and off during the night and day, would you disable the switch if you fitted one of these into a lamp holder?


    Andy Betteridge
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    Depends how "dim" the user is!


    Regards


    BAD and BED

  • Did you distill (sic ) hooch (possibly only a rap on the knuckles nowadays) or make explosives (lock up and throw away the key in 2019!)?






    I will answer carefully so I do not incriminate myself too much.

    Not to drink, and oh yes.

    Actually I was part of a group that decided it would be  bit of a laugh to put some home made gun cotton into one of the ashtrays in the 6th form common room... as you do.

    That would not be possible today , not least as they would not be allowed to smoke indoors, nor would the reaction to a bit of " flash and pop"  and handful of flying dog-ends be little more than suppressed laughter and rolling of eyes. In some ways I am a child of my time - although I do intend to grow up at some point,  in the current job it is not fortunately essential to be a perfect conformist.


  • If the smart lamp is in a pendant a switched bayonet lamp holder is an option. 

    https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Switched-Lampholder---White/p/712981

  • I think that BOD was saying that if you unscrew and pull out the fuse tray, you can pop in a lock-out padlock.



    Indeed - the point I was trying to make was that doing so only isolates L, not N - hence is no longer good for isolation, or indeed switching off for mechanical maintenance, in an increasing number of situations.


      - Andy.