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Omitting 30ma RCD Protection for single S/O in a domestic property

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I installed a dedicated circuit for a hifi system for a customer last year. The customer requested a 6mm2 radial from a 16A MCB housed in its own independent consumer unit into a single, un-switched socket outlet. No problem, bit unusual but no worries.I wired it using a 3c 6mm2 armoured cable as I half anticipated the forthcoming...


The hifi equipment is causing the rcd to trip when started up. I haven't been over to have a look but I am assuming that the startup current for the many power supplies (he has told me there are ten!) coupled with electronic earth leakage is causing a CPC current that is sufficient to trip the RCD (perhaps only 16ma but enough). The earthing is high integrity having a 6mm2 cpc + armour and the Zs is sufficiently low enough that the 16A MCB can be used for fault protection. So, if this wasn't domestic I'd ditch the RCD (or replace with a 100ma) assuming that my assumptions to this point are correct.


The customer has now decided he doesn't want RCD anyway for 'reasons' but I'm still wary of removing it in a domestic situation, not because I believe the installation would become less-safe but just because it contravenes regulations.


Assuming there's no fault on the equipment and it is just a case of startup/inrush current and earth leakage, what approach would you take? Remove the RCD and write it up as a deviation from 7671 with a signed disclaimer/waiver from the customer? Install a 100ma RCD? Do nothing and walk away? Something else?


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    gkenyon:




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    On my last Inspection which was March 2019 my assessor said it was perfectly fine. I'm with the NIC EIC if it helps. 


    Regards TS


     




    Not sure what the rationale is, to be honest. BS 7671 clearly lists the standards for RCDs recognised for providing Additional Protection. If you haven't used an RCD complying with one of those standards, that's a departure (but may be no less safe, therefore OK, but still need to state the departure).


    Of course, whatever the situation, additional protection by 30 mA RCD may be required for other reasons, e.g. cables concealed in walls < 50 mm from the surface.


     




    Hi Graham,


    Sorry forgot to mention that the cables were surface ran in galv conduit, so in this instance the additional protection was only for the user and not required for the fixed electrical installation. 

    Regards TS

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    gkenyon:




    Timeserved:



    On my last Inspection which was March 2019 my assessor said it was perfectly fine. I'm with the NIC EIC if it helps. 


    Regards TS


     




    Not sure what the rationale is, to be honest. BS 7671 clearly lists the standards for RCDs recognised for providing Additional Protection. If you haven't used an RCD complying with one of those standards, that's a departure (but may be no less safe, therefore OK, but still need to state the departure).


    Of course, whatever the situation, additional protection by 30 mA RCD may be required for other reasons, e.g. cables concealed in walls < 50 mm from the surface.


     




    Hi Graham,


    Sorry forgot to mention that the cables were surface ran in galv conduit, so in this instance the additional protection was only for the user and not required for the fixed electrical installation. 

    Regards TS

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