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Omitting 30ma RCD Protection for single S/O in a domestic property

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I installed a dedicated circuit for a hifi system for a customer last year. The customer requested a 6mm2 radial from a 16A MCB housed in its own independent consumer unit into a single, un-switched socket outlet. No problem, bit unusual but no worries.I wired it using a 3c 6mm2 armoured cable as I half anticipated the forthcoming...


The hifi equipment is causing the rcd to trip when started up. I haven't been over to have a look but I am assuming that the startup current for the many power supplies (he has told me there are ten!) coupled with electronic earth leakage is causing a CPC current that is sufficient to trip the RCD (perhaps only 16ma but enough). The earthing is high integrity having a 6mm2 cpc + armour and the Zs is sufficiently low enough that the 16A MCB can be used for fault protection. So, if this wasn't domestic I'd ditch the RCD (or replace with a 100ma) assuming that my assumptions to this point are correct.


The customer has now decided he doesn't want RCD anyway for 'reasons' but I'm still wary of removing it in a domestic situation, not because I believe the installation would become less-safe but just because it contravenes regulations.


Assuming there's no fault on the equipment and it is just a case of startup/inrush current and earth leakage, what approach would you take? Remove the RCD and write it up as a deviation from 7671 with a signed disclaimer/waiver from the customer? Install a 100ma RCD? Do nothing and walk away? Something else?


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  • Hang on Andy,


    The change was advertised quite clearly, on Page 5 of BS 7671, which says that Chapter 53 has been completely revised.

    Regulations 531.3.4.1 and 531.3.6 are definitely included in that.


    Perhaps it's worth considering the following
    • RCDs to other standards than those listed in BS 7671:2018 were never explicitly referenced by BS 7671 prior to the 18th Edition.

    • Further, SRCDs and FCURCDs were never included in Table 53.4 in BS 7671:2008+A3:2015.



    In fact, in terms of BS 7671:2018 compliance, it's a little more subtle than Regulations 531.3.4.1 and 531.3.6. For example, neither BS 7288 nor BS 7071 are included in Table 53.4, so the installer must ensure that such devices can provide isolation in accordance with Regulation 531.1.1.


    I quote from BS 7288:2016 (first part of last para in section 0)

    The residual current device at socket-outlet level is normally intended to be installed by skilled or instructed persons. It can be operated several times per day. The isolation function is not necessary since pulling out the plug from the socket-outlet is recognized as providing effective isolation.



    And in the Scope:


    SRCDs are neither intended to provide an isolation function nor intended to be used in IT systems.



    and also in the Scope


    SRCDs are intended for use in circuits where the fault protection and additional protection are already assured upstream of the SRCD.






    Therefore, it is clear that SRCDs to BS 7288 are not suitable for either fault protection or additional protection in accordance with BS 7671:2018.
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  • Hang on Andy,


    The change was advertised quite clearly, on Page 5 of BS 7671, which says that Chapter 53 has been completely revised.

    Regulations 531.3.4.1 and 531.3.6 are definitely included in that.


    Perhaps it's worth considering the following
    • RCDs to other standards than those listed in BS 7671:2018 were never explicitly referenced by BS 7671 prior to the 18th Edition.

    • Further, SRCDs and FCURCDs were never included in Table 53.4 in BS 7671:2008+A3:2015.



    In fact, in terms of BS 7671:2018 compliance, it's a little more subtle than Regulations 531.3.4.1 and 531.3.6. For example, neither BS 7288 nor BS 7071 are included in Table 53.4, so the installer must ensure that such devices can provide isolation in accordance with Regulation 531.1.1.


    I quote from BS 7288:2016 (first part of last para in section 0)

    The residual current device at socket-outlet level is normally intended to be installed by skilled or instructed persons. It can be operated several times per day. The isolation function is not necessary since pulling out the plug from the socket-outlet is recognized as providing effective isolation.



    And in the Scope:


    SRCDs are neither intended to provide an isolation function nor intended to be used in IT systems.



    and also in the Scope


    SRCDs are intended for use in circuits where the fault protection and additional protection are already assured upstream of the SRCD.






    Therefore, it is clear that SRCDs to BS 7288 are not suitable for either fault protection or additional protection in accordance with BS 7671:2018.
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