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Omitting 30ma RCD Protection for single S/O in a domestic property

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I installed a dedicated circuit for a hifi system for a customer last year. The customer requested a 6mm2 radial from a 16A MCB housed in its own independent consumer unit into a single, un-switched socket outlet. No problem, bit unusual but no worries.I wired it using a 3c 6mm2 armoured cable as I half anticipated the forthcoming...


The hifi equipment is causing the rcd to trip when started up. I haven't been over to have a look but I am assuming that the startup current for the many power supplies (he has told me there are ten!) coupled with electronic earth leakage is causing a CPC current that is sufficient to trip the RCD (perhaps only 16ma but enough). The earthing is high integrity having a 6mm2 cpc + armour and the Zs is sufficiently low enough that the 16A MCB can be used for fault protection. So, if this wasn't domestic I'd ditch the RCD (or replace with a 100ma) assuming that my assumptions to this point are correct.


The customer has now decided he doesn't want RCD anyway for 'reasons' but I'm still wary of removing it in a domestic situation, not because I believe the installation would become less-safe but just because it contravenes regulations.


Assuming there's no fault on the equipment and it is just a case of startup/inrush current and earth leakage, what approach would you take? Remove the RCD and write it up as a deviation from 7671 with a signed disclaimer/waiver from the customer? Install a 100ma RCD? Do nothing and walk away? Something else?


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  • Sparkingchip:

    SCRDs are not intended to provide isolation.


    What if you have a SCRD fused connection unit supplying a 20-amp double pole switch with a flex outlet which the appliance is actually connected to, does that fulfill requirements for isolation?


     Andy Betteridge 




    Definitely not, it's the device providing ADS that has to be suitable for isolation... Regulation 531.1.1



    In any case, it's no good skirting around BS 7671:2018 for a way through the myre ... BS 7288:2016 clearly states in the scope that SRCDs to that standard must have fault protection and additional protection upstream of the SRCD.



    SRCDs are intended for use in circuits where the fault protection and additional protection are already assured upstream of the SRCD.



    So, if you were to install an SRCD to BS 7288:2016, you should ensure that it is protected by a suitable overcurrent protective device, and additional protection is provided in accordance with BS 7671, upstream of the SRCD or FCR RCD



    In fact, since BS 7288 requires additional protection is in place, does that mean even an FCU-RCD will always require an upstream 30 mA RCD, even though it may not come under 411.3.3 of BS 7671 ???

     

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  • Sparkingchip:

    SCRDs are not intended to provide isolation.


    What if you have a SCRD fused connection unit supplying a 20-amp double pole switch with a flex outlet which the appliance is actually connected to, does that fulfill requirements for isolation?


     Andy Betteridge 




    Definitely not, it's the device providing ADS that has to be suitable for isolation... Regulation 531.1.1



    In any case, it's no good skirting around BS 7671:2018 for a way through the myre ... BS 7288:2016 clearly states in the scope that SRCDs to that standard must have fault protection and additional protection upstream of the SRCD.



    SRCDs are intended for use in circuits where the fault protection and additional protection are already assured upstream of the SRCD.



    So, if you were to install an SRCD to BS 7288:2016, you should ensure that it is protected by a suitable overcurrent protective device, and additional protection is provided in accordance with BS 7671, upstream of the SRCD or FCR RCD



    In fact, since BS 7288 requires additional protection is in place, does that mean even an FCU-RCD will always require an upstream 30 mA RCD, even though it may not come under 411.3.3 of BS 7671 ???

     

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