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Omitting 30ma RCD Protection for single S/O in a domestic property

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I installed a dedicated circuit for a hifi system for a customer last year. The customer requested a 6mm2 radial from a 16A MCB housed in its own independent consumer unit into a single, un-switched socket outlet. No problem, bit unusual but no worries.I wired it using a 3c 6mm2 armoured cable as I half anticipated the forthcoming...


The hifi equipment is causing the rcd to trip when started up. I haven't been over to have a look but I am assuming that the startup current for the many power supplies (he has told me there are ten!) coupled with electronic earth leakage is causing a CPC current that is sufficient to trip the RCD (perhaps only 16ma but enough). The earthing is high integrity having a 6mm2 cpc + armour and the Zs is sufficiently low enough that the 16A MCB can be used for fault protection. So, if this wasn't domestic I'd ditch the RCD (or replace with a 100ma) assuming that my assumptions to this point are correct.


The customer has now decided he doesn't want RCD anyway for 'reasons' but I'm still wary of removing it in a domestic situation, not because I believe the installation would become less-safe but just because it contravenes regulations.


Assuming there's no fault on the equipment and it is just a case of startup/inrush current and earth leakage, what approach would you take? Remove the RCD and write it up as a deviation from 7671 with a signed disclaimer/waiver from the customer? Install a 100ma RCD? Do nothing and walk away? Something else?


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  • In that photo of the now out of date IET Guidance Note above read the last paragraph warning about not putting a RCD where someone who is elderly or infirmed cannot get to reset it.


    Some years ago I spoke to a member of this forum at an Elex show, he had a contract to install electrical supplies for kidney dialysis machines being installed in peoples homes, not unsurprisingly he installs the RCD on the wall next to the machine so it is accessible to the user of the machine whilst they are connected to it.


    There isn’t always a one size fits all solution to the issues that life throws up when it comes to retrofitting RCD protection in electrical installations.


    It is a requirement that electrical installations are safe, but they also need to serve specific purposes.


    Going back to the original post of this actual discussion, omitting RCD protection from sockets that supply HiFi equipment because of some notion that it improves sound quality is not acceptable. I have actually had to have this conversation with people and have walked away from doing jobs because they argued they didn’t want a RCD installed, as I have when people have refused to have installations made safe before undertaking alterations or extensions.


     Andy Betteridge
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  • In that photo of the now out of date IET Guidance Note above read the last paragraph warning about not putting a RCD where someone who is elderly or infirmed cannot get to reset it.


    Some years ago I spoke to a member of this forum at an Elex show, he had a contract to install electrical supplies for kidney dialysis machines being installed in peoples homes, not unsurprisingly he installs the RCD on the wall next to the machine so it is accessible to the user of the machine whilst they are connected to it.


    There isn’t always a one size fits all solution to the issues that life throws up when it comes to retrofitting RCD protection in electrical installations.


    It is a requirement that electrical installations are safe, but they also need to serve specific purposes.


    Going back to the original post of this actual discussion, omitting RCD protection from sockets that supply HiFi equipment because of some notion that it improves sound quality is not acceptable. I have actually had to have this conversation with people and have walked away from doing jobs because they argued they didn’t want a RCD installed, as I have when people have refused to have installations made safe before undertaking alterations or extensions.


     Andy Betteridge
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