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Tingles from lead flashing on house with solar array - anyone else seen this?

A long phone call today with a good friend who is a Niciec Contractor, who is now facing a rather odd problem with a domestic solar array installed by others. The DC string cables from the panels on the roof to the inverter run along some distance under lead flashing, and now workers on the roof are reporting tingles from the metal flashing when standing on their scaffolding.

As part of the testing , the cables have been checked and are isolated from the metal and not damaged in any way. There is a rather variable AC voltage on the lead, relative to the scaffolding, which is at more or less the same as local earth potential. The measured voltage is considerably more when the inverter is on though does not fall completely to zero when it is not.

Now I have not seen the set up, as it is many miles away, but as the voltage is so variable depending on conditions, I am minded to suggest it is capacitive coupling between the DC string cables and the adjacent metal.

I'm also going to suggest earthing the flashing in any case.

However, has anyone else with more experience of modern domestic solar installation ever seen this sort of thing?

 And am I even right in assuming the inverter  action means DC strings are commutating at 50Hz relative to the mains, as would be needed to explain this effect?

Or am I going up the wrong tree altogether ?


The inverter suppliers are not much help, being more of a kit supplier than technical experts on what they stock, and this is not in their FAQ.

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  • You could, and I wish they did, filter the RF components of the AC off the DC strings far more positively. The value engineers think that meeting the minimum EMC spec once in a test in the most favourable layout of cables in a test house is enough, to show it is good enough to cover all cases, and it really is not. (bring a medium wave radio near it if you do not believe me)

    Some big solar farms with lots of inverters are in effect long and medium wave jammers with an effective radius on weak signal reception of several miles.

    Equally simple changes, like not wiring the DC strings as a big loop, but as twisted pairs and some ferrites can have a big effect on the RF problem is, no one does.
    an American perspective on the interference issue


    However, the 300V p-p at 50Hz, which I think is a large part of the tingle is essential to the correct commutating operation of the inverter, and while we may wish to round the edges off a bit and limit the rate of rise, we cannot get away from the fundamental.

    Meanwhile my friend has been at another project. and has not come back to me with how this one has gone, so I have nothing to report.
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  • You could, and I wish they did, filter the RF components of the AC off the DC strings far more positively. The value engineers think that meeting the minimum EMC spec once in a test in the most favourable layout of cables in a test house is enough, to show it is good enough to cover all cases, and it really is not. (bring a medium wave radio near it if you do not believe me)

    Some big solar farms with lots of inverters are in effect long and medium wave jammers with an effective radius on weak signal reception of several miles.

    Equally simple changes, like not wiring the DC strings as a big loop, but as twisted pairs and some ferrites can have a big effect on the RF problem is, no one does.
    an American perspective on the interference issue


    However, the 300V p-p at 50Hz, which I think is a large part of the tingle is essential to the correct commutating operation of the inverter, and while we may wish to round the edges off a bit and limit the rate of rise, we cannot get away from the fundamental.

    Meanwhile my friend has been at another project. and has not come back to me with how this one has gone, so I have nothing to report.
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