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Help with installation / diagram

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Hi,


I am after some help with a heated windows installation / diagram - grateful for any input.

Unfortunately, the company supplying the installion went bust and I have been left with a system that doesn't  work (incorrectly designed).

We had a local electrician do the first fix wiring based on the diagrams but he says what has been sent won't work in it's current state and he doesn't have the relevant expertise to adjust it.

We live in a rural area and electricians are not that common especially for something as complex as this.

Rather than post up the diagrams and go into too much detail initially, I just wanted to know if this is a place to ask for advice and if not could anyone point me in the right direction. e.g contact details for an electrical engineer.


Thanks.
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  • Surely these window heaters are not a good idea anyway? I have no direct knowledge of them, but unless part of a double glazed unit with a IR reflective coating on the inside of the outer layer they cannot be very efficient? Heating by very long wave IR is no good anyway, it will heat the local air around the window but not go any further. I assume that the windows do not glow as with the short wavelength IR heaters which are quite good. I suggest that the windows just be left as windows and alternative heating arrangements be made. The manufacturer probably gave up because these windows do not obey sensible physics and proved fairly useless and very expensive to run. It is like having radiators in the house at 25 degrees. Underfloor heating does use lower temperatures, but only works by very large areas (the whole floor) and depends entirely on conductive transfer of the heat to the air, and of course has to operate 24/7 (or pretty much) to be useful. It is also very well insulated on the underside, which windows are not, and a huge area difference too.


    Glass heating as an anti-misting or frost removal is used for some items, plane windscreens, Rolls cars etc. and has a transparent layer of gold deposited on the glass which is then powered up from two edges. It is an expensive process and thus somewhat esoteric and does use significant power. For space heating it is probably useless.


    I suggest that further money spent will be wasted, and you will have no comeback when the system doesn't work. Getting anyone near it is probably impossible. Lets see who posts anything else, sorry to be rather negative but sometimes the truth hurts and it is best to try to get over it.
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  • Surely these window heaters are not a good idea anyway? I have no direct knowledge of them, but unless part of a double glazed unit with a IR reflective coating on the inside of the outer layer they cannot be very efficient? Heating by very long wave IR is no good anyway, it will heat the local air around the window but not go any further. I assume that the windows do not glow as with the short wavelength IR heaters which are quite good. I suggest that the windows just be left as windows and alternative heating arrangements be made. The manufacturer probably gave up because these windows do not obey sensible physics and proved fairly useless and very expensive to run. It is like having radiators in the house at 25 degrees. Underfloor heating does use lower temperatures, but only works by very large areas (the whole floor) and depends entirely on conductive transfer of the heat to the air, and of course has to operate 24/7 (or pretty much) to be useful. It is also very well insulated on the underside, which windows are not, and a huge area difference too.


    Glass heating as an anti-misting or frost removal is used for some items, plane windscreens, Rolls cars etc. and has a transparent layer of gold deposited on the glass which is then powered up from two edges. It is an expensive process and thus somewhat esoteric and does use significant power. For space heating it is probably useless.


    I suggest that further money spent will be wasted, and you will have no comeback when the system doesn't work. Getting anyone near it is probably impossible. Lets see who posts anything else, sorry to be rather negative but sometimes the truth hurts and it is best to try to get over it.
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