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Slightly hypothetical question regarding qualifications

Johno12345
I have been thinking - I know this can be dangerous!


I'm charged with maintenance in our factory, I think most people would now call it Facilities Management, Although I do have tools, I am office based but will turn my hand to the odd practical job here and there.


I also think I am reasonably knowledgable regarding the wiring regulations and I am competent enough to have electricians working for me that I can understand in reasonably good detail about what's going on, 


However, I don't have any qualifications, beyond a (ridiculous) basic electrical principles course I was sent on a few years back. GCSE physics was more thorough - I said it was a box-ticking course, so I could reset MCBs!


I would like to have the qualifications that I expect electricians to have, but still only for my desk-based job, so I can speak with more confidence about what I am expecting my electricians to do. I know most have done a four-year college course, which I can't do. 


I'm always a bit anxious about signing off isolations and supervising people testing for dead, accepting repairs and new work purely because someone has said 'aye, its alright'


I'm feeling slightly short of words to explain myself fully, but I hope you get the gist. 


Any thoughts?

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    >signing off isolations and supervising people testing for dead, accepting repairs and new work purely because someone has said 'aye, its alright'


    Side stepping your specific question, I would that thought it was not your signature that should be on the paperwork, but your responsibility 'to obtain' a signature from a qualified and therefore insured competent person ? (else what is the point of having a dog .... etc...) so it is their visible name (even if you have to co-sign to say you witnessed it)


    But I'd say, yes, great that you want to know more about the basic expectations of the work to know if some one is as competent in practice as they are presenting themselves as, or being able to discuss alternative approaches or options than the one presented for any particular task or Risk Assessment.


    At a very simple level

    if you feel like bed time reading .. the 18th wiring regs are readily purchasable (a business expense) allowing reference to the regulations on-site by anyone - there are also some self-paced online training courses (google) also a business expense ?


    Then there are some part entertainment (so not all dry study), part information YouTubes.

    putting "electrician"  and/or "electrician training uk" into a YouTube search for example. will locate several people who present good work (and bad/why) , even some subtle gotchas and discuss methods and expectations of tests.

    But of note are probably (but not exclusively) the "videos" of


    GSH Electrical - A Training school Lecturer presenting support videos
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgtbE9w_d-u2AvPp3WBlPfQ


    but also people like

    David Savery Electrical Services, whose initial style maybe a bit 'coarse' but often discusses serious issues.

    (SPD Surge protection, 'cheap' ECIR implications and training for, LED lighting installation issues etc.) 
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6pc8dcxZreeQxln00G_BIQ


    John Ward, though more lately doing 'interesting' things, he does do specific regulation based topics
    https://www.youtube.com/user/jjward/videos


    Thomas Nagy - who documents his variety of home and small business installations and why he takes his choices.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6EJTy6p58ZW16PEljSn4Qw


    But there are many others that provide information as well as entertainment, albeit that most if not all are more domestically oriented than industrial.


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    >signing off isolations and supervising people testing for dead, accepting repairs and new work purely because someone has said 'aye, its alright'


    Side stepping your specific question, I would that thought it was not your signature that should be on the paperwork, but your responsibility 'to obtain' a signature from a qualified and therefore insured competent person ? (else what is the point of having a dog .... etc...) so it is their visible name (even if you have to co-sign to say you witnessed it)


    But I'd say, yes, great that you want to know more about the basic expectations of the work to know if some one is as competent in practice as they are presenting themselves as, or being able to discuss alternative approaches or options than the one presented for any particular task or Risk Assessment.


    At a very simple level

    if you feel like bed time reading .. the 18th wiring regs are readily purchasable (a business expense) allowing reference to the regulations on-site by anyone - there are also some self-paced online training courses (google) also a business expense ?


    Then there are some part entertainment (so not all dry study), part information YouTubes.

    putting "electrician"  and/or "electrician training uk" into a YouTube search for example. will locate several people who present good work (and bad/why) , even some subtle gotchas and discuss methods and expectations of tests.

    But of note are probably (but not exclusively) the "videos" of


    GSH Electrical - A Training school Lecturer presenting support videos
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgtbE9w_d-u2AvPp3WBlPfQ


    but also people like

    David Savery Electrical Services, whose initial style maybe a bit 'coarse' but often discusses serious issues.

    (SPD Surge protection, 'cheap' ECIR implications and training for, LED lighting installation issues etc.) 
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6pc8dcxZreeQxln00G_BIQ


    John Ward, though more lately doing 'interesting' things, he does do specific regulation based topics
    https://www.youtube.com/user/jjward/videos


    Thomas Nagy - who documents his variety of home and small business installations and why he takes his choices.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6EJTy6p58ZW16PEljSn4Qw


    But there are many others that provide information as well as entertainment, albeit that most if not all are more domestically oriented than industrial.


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