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Extraneous conductive parts

Former Community Member
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Hello,


Thinking about a domestic dwelling with main bonding to incoming water and gas pipes (even though most are plastic nowadays); all the electrical circuits within the dwelling are protected by RCDs; the only extraneous conductive parts to the bathroom being copper water pipes and copper central heating pipes... Why would the copper pipes need to be main bonded one to another close to the bathroom (in an accessible place for testing, like in an airing cupboard)?


Designing an installation which uses the cold water pipe in place of a main bonding cable (having a cross-sectional area which is greater, after all), why would any of the other three pipes need to be main bonded to that cold water pipe, when all of the pipes connect at the boiler any how?! Yes, if you were to cut all of the pipes and to replace them with plastic pipes then you risk introducing an electrical potential into the bathroom should a fault occur, but wouldn’t anyone doing that plumbing be obliged to consider this risk at that time? 


Otherwise, there is no point considering the use of copper pipes to replace main bonding cables. In which case, it would be necessary to bond the pipes one to another just outside the bathroom and run the cable all of the way back to the consumer unit.


I must excuse myself for being indolent and not referring directly to the wiring regulations, which is from where these ideas stem.
Parents
  • But luckily the beat of the human heart is of order 1 to 2 Hz depending on your physical condition, and electric shocks that are short compared to the beat period are much less serious than those that are longer, and there is a smooth curve of increasing probability of fibrillation, as the shock current or time is increased.

    So if we can get the disconnection times down, we can increase the shock current we consider acceptable,  and in turn the voltage for a given state of conductivity. Dry clothed, wet naked, and then direct contact to internal tissues,  are the hierarchy of lowering contact resistance we normally consider, so tighter rules in bathrooms than in living rooms, and tighter again in operating theatres and the like.
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  • But luckily the beat of the human heart is of order 1 to 2 Hz depending on your physical condition, and electric shocks that are short compared to the beat period are much less serious than those that are longer, and there is a smooth curve of increasing probability of fibrillation, as the shock current or time is increased.

    So if we can get the disconnection times down, we can increase the shock current we consider acceptable,  and in turn the voltage for a given state of conductivity. Dry clothed, wet naked, and then direct contact to internal tissues,  are the hierarchy of lowering contact resistance we normally consider, so tighter rules in bathrooms than in living rooms, and tighter again in operating theatres and the like.
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