3-phase E7 meter on single phase supply?

I suspect E7 3-phase smart meters are as rare as hen's teeth.

Well, I'll find out on Mon 12th between noon and 4pm as EDF wanted to install a smart meter. I have advised them of my existing set up and asked if it were possible and I was told it is....... I'm not convinced...... The "adviser" even asked it it fed a dedicated "off-peak" CU so had some awareness.

Also, it will be interesting to see if it can't be installed, whether I get the clause 7 £30 in the appointment letter for a no show appointment for wasting my time.... Again, I doubt it!

Regards

BOD

update


Chap rings to check my address and then again on arrival. I suggest that he parks by the workshop door to get his tools handy and he says he'll have a look first. Yep, three-phase. Apparently, he's only given address until he "clocks in" on site after which, his tablet reveals the existing meter serial number. He could tell from experience of serial numbers that it was three-phase before he got out of his van. When I retold the appointment conversation stressing three-phase, he said he gets on average two visits a week aborted on site for three-phase. He said no smart meters yet for three-phase. 

I get a letter presumably prompted by his aborted visit saying they "couldn't complete the install because of an issue at my property".

I left it two months for me to cool down (I was actually quite busy Nov & Dec) before having an on line "chat" which led to "advisor" saying that they'll be back later when they've got the transcript (your call recorded for monitoring and training purposes type thing). Not going to give me £30 because the chap kept the appointment. Another week to cool off and I get "escalated" to a personal advisor and after more "chats" they agree to give me the £30 plus a further £20 for their administration consequences. I persist with the "issue at my property" as you can tell, that really wound me up, and they apologised as it was a standard letter. They will contact me when they have developed a three-phase smart meter.....


There you have it, no three-phase smart meters, yet............


Regards


BOD

E 10 meter installations can be quite daunting for new meter technicians, especially 3 phase, which were introduced by the late, great electricity boards many years ago for homes for which E7 was not adequate. I see posters as usual bashing the meter companies and suggesting a qualified electrician attend. Heaven forbid, you could have one of the new clueless "EICR" inspectors arrive and stand there scratching his/her head before a fictitious report is made, 

This meter installation, with two of the most reliable devices fitted by the old recs would not be instantly recognisable to the new generation. 

The supply is single phase, with a "link" fuse. 

It was the way things were done for that type of installation, one meter for 24 hour supply, in this case a Sangamo, and the E10 tariff by way of a Horstmann 3 display readout, different hours and total.

I sympathise with the consumer as EON dont do the tariff any more, but modern n/stors are much more efficient so the extended hours are not essential.


So there you go, get EON back, say we have found a man on the "wiring regulations" forum who has solved our problem. 

No charge.

Regards, UKPN

There may be no E7 three-phase smart meters, but there are certainly 3 phase smart meters generally, There are three or four 3x100A in the riser cupboard at work metering for assorted small industrial units. They've been there for around 3 years.

There may be no E7 three-phase smart meters, but there are certainly 3 phase smart meters generally, There are three or four 3x100A in the riser cupboard at work metering for assorted small industrial units. 


Richard(997?). Are they sub-meters to the units so that the "landlord" can back charge to recoup him having one incoming DNO supply meter or are they individual DNO supplies each with a smart meter that bills each unit directly?


Regards


BOD

Apparently suppliers can’t do complicated tariffs, except Octopus who can do ridiculously complicated tariffs.

Apparently suppliers can’t do complicated tariffs, except Octopus who can do ridiculously complicated tariffs.


I've been saying for years to anyone who would listen that sooner or later instead of fixed rate tariffs, we'd have the opportunity to have rates reflecting wholesale half hourly costs. I accept with the example given that instead of a typical flat rate of 17p/kWh it could vary from negative to a capped 35p (I understand wholesale has been up to around 200p) and also the arguments put forward that if implemented by mandate, only the "rich" would be able to feed their children at 5pm........


I imagine that the battery storage schemes wouldn't like to see it implemented as their viability of reselling their 45p?/kWh for peak lopping would be challenged.


Regards


BOD

And there's me believing that smart meters would do away with estimated bills................


I've just received my domestic bill pdf from e.on next which gives details of what appears to be random readings over last three months with the last being on 17 Jan 2021 and to make up (literally) todays bill, they use an estimated reading for 03 Feb 2021....


No postal delays to blame as emailed, am I being naive expecting a bill for what I used up to say 2 days ago, not three weeks ago?


As to the three-phase saga, I received an email last week advising (belatedly) that edf had checked my account and as it was not showing the number of phases, they have now updated my account. They will however contact me when they can install a smart meter. Wahay!


Regards


BOD