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Modular wiring home run cable sizing

Hello, I am trying to confirm the appropriate cable size for a home run cable in a modular wiring system. There is a 9-port MDB that supplies  radial circuits with socket outlets. As per BS7671, the appropriate grouping factor to be applied is either 0.5 (table 4C1) or 0.45 (table 4B5) assuming all circuits are carrying more than 30% of the current capacity of the home run cable. This ends up in having to use 6mm2 or even 10mm2 cables instead of 4mm2 that would be expected for radial circuits in 20A MCBs.


What are your thoughts?


Any comments would be appreciated.


Having said that and looking at regulation 2.3.3.1 from appendix 4 I have the feeling that based on the BS even when we are supplying lighting and power circuits in trunking, we would have to oversize all circuits to comply with the grouping factors. So how is it justified when we are installing a power and lighting DB with all these outgoing circuits in different sizes and loads in 2.5 (or even 1.5) for lighting and 4 for power?
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  • Chris 223:

    Chris, your description is more or less the scenario. Only difference is that there are separate MDBs for power and lighting and as such, the grouping factor would be 0.5 and end up with the rating of the home run to be 16A. Is it ok to use the estimated design current for sockets?


    I can not argue with those calculations. What you haven't mentioned (and may be a commercial confidence) is what will be plugged into the sockets. By their very nature, sockets imply diversity - they do not have the same 13 A load plugged in 24/7! As David has mentioned, the grouping factor is based upon fully loaded circuits. I think that diversity will allow you to get away with 20 A OCPDs or even 32 A ones.


    The reference is 311.1.


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  • Chris 223:

    Chris, your description is more or less the scenario. Only difference is that there are separate MDBs for power and lighting and as such, the grouping factor would be 0.5 and end up with the rating of the home run to be 16A. Is it ok to use the estimated design current for sockets?


    I can not argue with those calculations. What you haven't mentioned (and may be a commercial confidence) is what will be plugged into the sockets. By their very nature, sockets imply diversity - they do not have the same 13 A load plugged in 24/7! As David has mentioned, the grouping factor is based upon fully loaded circuits. I think that diversity will allow you to get away with 20 A OCPDs or even 32 A ones.


    The reference is 311.1.


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