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Correct Paperwork for Tenanted Property after UKPN call-out for EICR?

Good afternoon, my first post here. I'm a retired SW Engineer originally qualified electrically, but asking this as the owner of a flat I let out, with an ongoing tenancy.

I recently had the flat inspected IAW the new rules for let homes. It has been regularly inspected before and brought up to date as necessary. On the new inspection the - familiar - electrician was happy with all "my" electrics, but marked the EICR Unsatisfactory because the supply head warranted checking, for which he advised me to call UKPN. Fair enough. They came round a day or two later, had a good look, and concluded it was ok. I asked if they issued any paper for that - "no, just logged on our system". But their call handler was happy enough to send me an email detailing the findings & conclusion. Electrician's happy, I'm happy, it's all safe. But the letting agents are whinging that there must be an EIC. Electrician seems quite au fait with new tenancy regs and quotes "Part 2, section 3, paragraph 5, points a-c; a written report by a qualified person" which the email satisfies. And I think I glean that the "Installation" in EIC is my/his bit, whereas UKPN deal with the "supply", so of course they can't do an EIC (and it was only a check - no work done). Yet the agents keep demanding an EIC.

Seems like a sort of bureaucratic mismatch between two organisations? Or are the lettings agent simply getting it wrong in demanding an EIC specifically, not a "written report by a qualified person"?

What do others think should happen next? Or should have happened?
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  • Gideon:

    Cheers Andy, just to be clear, when I wrote EIC above, I did mean EIC. Are you suggesting that the electrician should up-issue the EICR?


    If the agent is asking for an EIC as the result of an inspection then they're deluded. EICs can only be issued as the result of a piece of electrical installation work (including design & inspection/test) and then they can only cover the actual work done - not any existing installation,  For existing installations an EICR is the only appropriate document. Yes if your electrician felt that some information necessary for issuing an EICR was missing and has now been provided - the sensible thing to my mind is for EICR to be re-issued as amended. It is the EICR the legislation effectively requires.


    (I am sort of side-stepping the issue that the wiring regs strictly speaking don't cover the supplier's equipment - so there might be an argument that a problem there shouldn't affect the result of an EICR - even though checking the supplier's equipment is on the EICR checklist - from a common sense point of view it is reasonable to make sure everything is OK).

     



    How did they manage to invent/require two forms with nearly the same initials?!

    Oh, it's amazing what you can come up with given the right committee...


        - Andy.
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  • Gideon:

    Cheers Andy, just to be clear, when I wrote EIC above, I did mean EIC. Are you suggesting that the electrician should up-issue the EICR?


    If the agent is asking for an EIC as the result of an inspection then they're deluded. EICs can only be issued as the result of a piece of electrical installation work (including design & inspection/test) and then they can only cover the actual work done - not any existing installation,  For existing installations an EICR is the only appropriate document. Yes if your electrician felt that some information necessary for issuing an EICR was missing and has now been provided - the sensible thing to my mind is for EICR to be re-issued as amended. It is the EICR the legislation effectively requires.


    (I am sort of side-stepping the issue that the wiring regs strictly speaking don't cover the supplier's equipment - so there might be an argument that a problem there shouldn't affect the result of an EICR - even though checking the supplier's equipment is on the EICR checklist - from a common sense point of view it is reasonable to make sure everything is OK).

     



    How did they manage to invent/require two forms with nearly the same initials?!

    Oh, it's amazing what you can come up with given the right committee...


        - Andy.
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