Is it correct 411.3.2.2

AJJewsbury:

I agree - they're not conditions (boolean expressions) to be logically-ANDed, they're simply two lists things to which the requirement applies.

  - Andy.

Same as in the rental regs Part 1;
“qualified person” means a person competent to undertake the inspection and testing required under regulation 3(1) and any further investigative or remedial work in accordance with the electrical safety standards;"

On first reading I thought you had to be competent to do both, but it is really a list, according to NICEIC. 

Edit; Domestic installers like me aren't deemed competent by NICEIC to do EICRs 

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Same as in the rental regs Part 1;
“qualified person” means a person competent to undertake the inspection and testing required under regulation 3(1) and any further investigative or remedial work in accordance with the electrical safety standards;"

On first reading I thought you had to be competent to do both, but it is really a list, according to NICEIC. 

Edit; Domestic installers like me aren't deemed competent by NICEIC to do EICRs 

They might be correct but you don't have to be deemed competent by NICEIC to do EICRs.

You just have to be competent.


Many threads indicate that people doing EICRs are not competent.

geoffsd:

Same as in the rental regs Part 1;
“qualified person” means a person competent to undertake the inspection and testing required under regulation 3(1) and any further investigative or remedial work in accordance with the electrical safety standards;"

On first reading I thought you had to be competent to do both, but it is really a list, according to NICEIC. 

I disagree. It clearly says you have to be competent in both.

Edit; Domestic installers like me aren't deemed competent by NICEIC to do EICRs 

I agree with geoffsd. However, it does seem a little odd that a "qualified person" must be capable of doing both. In reality, the competencies overlap to such a large degree that it does not matter.

OlympusMons:

Yes it is certainly less clear cut than the OP's example, but the NICEIC are insistent that DIs can do remedials. The competent persons list here https://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/ divides electricians into those who can do installations/remedials and those who do EICRs, NICEIC pointed me to this list, I am in the first group. After all, I can do a full rewire and produce an EIC which would be acceptable. Remember that after remedials are done, you only have to confirm in writing that the electrical safety standards are met, or at a push that the work you did met with the standards. It doesn't require you to confirm that the installation is now "satisfactory".

Sorry to OP for hijacking this thread a bit. And well done for commenting on the DPC.

If you look me up, I can fix things, but not inspect them. To get on the inspecting list I would simply have to pay more money to my CPS. ?

If you look me up, I can fix things, but not inspect them. To get on the inspecting list I would simply have to pay more money to my CPS. ?

No, you wouldn't.


EICRs are nothing to do with the registration schemes - other than that which they have invented themselves.

geoffsd:

If you look me up, I can fix things, but not inspect them. To get on the inspecting list I would simply have to pay more money to my CPS. ?

No, you wouldn't.


EICRs are nothing to do with the registration schemes - other than that which they have invented themselves.

I don't know how you are in a position to comment on my relationship with my CPS. It really is a case of paying more to get on the inspecting list and that's that.

I don't know how you are in a position to comment on my relationship with my CPS. It really is a case of paying more to get on the inspecting list and that's that.

I presume it is the same as everyone else's.


You might wish to be on a list, and pay for the privilege, but you do not have to be to carry out EICRs.