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UKPN service head to smart meter - Advice and options?

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Situation - first floor maisonette

UKPN Service head (60A fuse) TN-S is located in ground floor flat with no access for first floor.  Riser cables (VIR badly degraded) run inside brickwork up to another cutout fuse (60A).  Modern cables then loop into smart meter.  UKPN say they are not responsible for the riser - EDS 08-1103 section 6.1 - even though EPN as it was then installed it (although the cutout is theirs and technically only they are allowed to remove the fuse - my thoughts?).  UKPN won't pay for the work so that sits with the client unless anyone can tell me differently?

So, what's the best way to achieve this?  Need to upgrade the cable to 25mm2 (and probably ask to upgrade fuse to 100A) and it's not practical to start digging out the walls, not least because prolonged access to downstairs is not really an option.  Therefore external?  Best method/option?

Thanks in advance


Images - degraded VIR cable; upstairs cutout; downstairs service head
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    Hicky59:

    Thanks David.  The owners changed to British Gas dual fuel when they moved into the maisonette in November.  The L cable (VIR) as far as I can see does not have exposed conductors and the pic was taken before UKPN came to have a look.  The engineer did wrap the N cable in the plastic you can see but it does need sorting pronto.


    OK, belay my last.


    So the DNO is fully aware of the hazard, but has just put a bit of plastic around it! I can scarcely believe it.


    When I reported a slightly elevated Ze at home about 5 years ago, SSE were round in about an hour and a half. Then there was a discussion with HQ as to whether the fuse should be pulled until the situation had been remedied. They decided that because it is only a 60 A one, the supply could be left intact. The service cable was "PME'd" by lunch time. That's what I call good service.


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    Hicky59:

    Thanks David.  The owners changed to British Gas dual fuel when they moved into the maisonette in November.  The L cable (VIR) as far as I can see does not have exposed conductors and the pic was taken before UKPN came to have a look.  The engineer did wrap the N cable in the plastic you can see but it does need sorting pronto.


    OK, belay my last.


    So the DNO is fully aware of the hazard, but has just put a bit of plastic around it! I can scarcely believe it.


    When I reported a slightly elevated Ze at home about 5 years ago, SSE were round in about an hour and a half. Then there was a discussion with HQ as to whether the fuse should be pulled until the situation had been remedied. They decided that because it is only a 60 A one, the supply could be left intact. The service cable was "PME'd" by lunch time. That's what I call good service.


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