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BS7671 or Wiring Regulations?

UKPN
There is a guy on here asking "what is the point of the wiring regulations?" He hasnt explained his question, so I would like to expand a little.

If you pass the City and Guilds exam, you are awarded a certificate titled "BS7671 Requirements for Electrical Installations" The term "Wiring Regulations" is not on the sheet.

However, I note that most job requirements ask for 2391/2396/18th Wiring Regulations. Virtually no one talks in the context of " BS7671"

I am wondering if members can give me an idea how the two terms are related, who makes the decisions on "regulations" and who is accountable for those decisions. I have noted errors/confusion on various posts these last few days caused by ambiguity in those regulations and it seems the person who should be protected by these regulations (the customer) is the last to be considered.

Ever the cynic, is the term "wiring regulations" retained  for sentimental reasons or just to sell the book?

Thanks in advance.


Regards, UKPNZap


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    gkenyon:
    AJJewsbury:

    They could have simply referred to the 'current' version of BS 7671 - and I gather that was suggested during the review process - and rejected. Apparently Parliament have a principle that they and only they make the (statute) laws of the land - and don't like to give that power directly to the likes of the IET or BSI - which would effectively be the case if anything written in BS 7671 automatically became law. They describe such as thing as "ambulatory" legislation (presumably in the sense that it isn't fixed but can move about) and don't like it one bit. The result is a deliberate policy of examining changes to BS 7671 and only adopting them if they like it (as and when they get around to doing say that it ... which they don't seem too efficient at).


    Yes, I think you've nailed this one. Apparently, any reference documents in legislation must be dated (as is the legislation itself). I think this is at least as much to do with how the legislation is used in court proceedings, as much as wanting "control", but then again you'd never know?




    Something like the Interpretation Act 1978?


    In this day and age, it shouldn't be difficult for somebody in each Govt. Dept. to maintain a database of legislation which has date specific references to standards, etc.


    It's not so much "control" as the sovereignty of Parliament - you wouldn't want to muck about with that, would you?


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    gkenyon:
    AJJewsbury:

    They could have simply referred to the 'current' version of BS 7671 - and I gather that was suggested during the review process - and rejected. Apparently Parliament have a principle that they and only they make the (statute) laws of the land - and don't like to give that power directly to the likes of the IET or BSI - which would effectively be the case if anything written in BS 7671 automatically became law. They describe such as thing as "ambulatory" legislation (presumably in the sense that it isn't fixed but can move about) and don't like it one bit. The result is a deliberate policy of examining changes to BS 7671 and only adopting them if they like it (as and when they get around to doing say that it ... which they don't seem too efficient at).


    Yes, I think you've nailed this one. Apparently, any reference documents in legislation must be dated (as is the legislation itself). I think this is at least as much to do with how the legislation is used in court proceedings, as much as wanting "control", but then again you'd never know?




    Something like the Interpretation Act 1978?


    In this day and age, it shouldn't be difficult for somebody in each Govt. Dept. to maintain a database of legislation which has date specific references to standards, etc.


    It's not so much "control" as the sovereignty of Parliament - you wouldn't want to muck about with that, would you?


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