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Part P third party

Re Part P Certification. Does a third party have to physically test an installation himself or is it sufficient to trust the test evidence of the electrician that did the work. I have been asked this by a neighbour and whilst I once knew the wiring regs I am no longer up to date (and not practicing). Thanks
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  • In this case the notifiable work was completed by someone who is not part of a self certification scheme. When completed he got someone else to sign the EIC, this someone else is, I believe, a third party electrician.


    If the work is 'notifiable work' under part P (new circuits, new consumer unit, or within 60cm of a bath or shower) then this is not how it is supposed to work.


    If the chap who is registered was employing the other it is OK, as then it is the same legal entity responsible, as if he was the supervisor of a team. Now, perhaps, if they have some private arrangement that is  equivalent, it could be similar, but it is on thin ice. (but I suspect a common situation.)

    So either the work is all adopted by the new chap, as if it was his  own, or it needs to be regularised by the local authority.

    Regularisation is the process for things like if you build a house and miss out the bit where you phone building control to come and look at the foundations. In the same way they may insist on digging beside the foundations to see, or not, depending if they have reason to assume they are being diddled or it is genuine, they may or may not insist on an intrusive inspection of the electrics. I think round here in general they are likely to be happy enough with someone who can produce a credible audit trail and has sensible looking  design specs for cable sizes and so on and can produce test results, your area may vary.

    Mike.
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  • In this case the notifiable work was completed by someone who is not part of a self certification scheme. When completed he got someone else to sign the EIC, this someone else is, I believe, a third party electrician.


    If the work is 'notifiable work' under part P (new circuits, new consumer unit, or within 60cm of a bath or shower) then this is not how it is supposed to work.


    If the chap who is registered was employing the other it is OK, as then it is the same legal entity responsible, as if he was the supervisor of a team. Now, perhaps, if they have some private arrangement that is  equivalent, it could be similar, but it is on thin ice. (but I suspect a common situation.)

    So either the work is all adopted by the new chap, as if it was his  own, or it needs to be regularised by the local authority.

    Regularisation is the process for things like if you build a house and miss out the bit where you phone building control to come and look at the foundations. In the same way they may insist on digging beside the foundations to see, or not, depending if they have reason to assume they are being diddled or it is genuine, they may or may not insist on an intrusive inspection of the electrics. I think round here in general they are likely to be happy enough with someone who can produce a credible audit trail and has sensible looking  design specs for cable sizes and so on and can produce test results, your area may vary.

    Mike.
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