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Induction Hob again

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I hope that you don’t find me impudent but I am having difficulty finding an electrician to explain why they will not install the induction hob and double oven that we are looking to fit in our new kitchen.
We have chosen a hob 7.4 kW and oven 6.3 kW. The cooker radial circuit has 6mm2 cable with 40A MCB. The run is some 12 m. The house was built (converted) in 2002 and inspected last year (DPN18C). We cannot run an extra cable because the CU is separated from the kitchen without a horizontal floor or roof space and presumably runs the existing cable through the stud walls.
The kitchen fitting company electrician has visited but won’t carry out the work unless we sign an indemnity as it would invalidate our insurance and the appliance guarantee. He suggested instead two plug-in ovens which we could add to the ring main. I have contacted four other local electricians but they all use 13.7 kW means 59.7 A which means 10 mm cable and ignore my request to consider diversity.
Should I give up and accept the two oven solution or perhaps a gas oven?
Do you know of a way of finding someone who understands diversity?
Am I simply wrong?

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  • I am not convinced that the standard diversity calculations for an electric cooker are applicable.in this case.

    The oven alone has a calculated loading of about 27 amps.

    Consider the following, What size circuit would you instal for a single load of 6.3 KW or 27 Amps ? I would say 32 amps.

    Now consider if some EXTRA load (the hob) is added to the circuit, does this really mean that a SMALLER circuit is now acceptable ?


    So common sense rules out a 25 amp circuit, as being insufficient for the oven alone.

    Common sense also rules out a 32 amp circuit since that only allows 5 amps for the hob if the oven is used.


    In my view SOME diversity can be allowed, but dont overdo it.

    A 40 amp circuit will probably be fine under all but exceptional use. 27 amps for the oven and 13 amps for the hob. It is not that likely that the hob will draw more than 13 amps, other than briefly, and even less likely that such intensive use of the hob will conicide with oven being being run at maximum temperature.


    A 50 amp circuit would be better if heavy use is anticipated.

    A 60 amp circuit would be OTT.
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  • I am not convinced that the standard diversity calculations for an electric cooker are applicable.in this case.

    The oven alone has a calculated loading of about 27 amps.

    Consider the following, What size circuit would you instal for a single load of 6.3 KW or 27 Amps ? I would say 32 amps.

    Now consider if some EXTRA load (the hob) is added to the circuit, does this really mean that a SMALLER circuit is now acceptable ?


    So common sense rules out a 25 amp circuit, as being insufficient for the oven alone.

    Common sense also rules out a 32 amp circuit since that only allows 5 amps for the hob if the oven is used.


    In my view SOME diversity can be allowed, but dont overdo it.

    A 40 amp circuit will probably be fine under all but exceptional use. 27 amps for the oven and 13 amps for the hob. It is not that likely that the hob will draw more than 13 amps, other than briefly, and even less likely that such intensive use of the hob will conicide with oven being being run at maximum temperature.


    A 50 amp circuit would be better if heavy use is anticipated.

    A 60 amp circuit would be OTT.
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