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Question about Who can do what and minor works certs

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I have a couple of questions regarding small electrical works in a house, who can do them and whether a minor works cert is needed.

 

im trying to nail down an answer to the following. 


i) Can a plumber / non-electrician  replace a broken immersion heater in a water cylinder. i.e. unwire old one from the fused spur and wire in new one to fused spur? Is an qualified electrician needed? Is a minor works cert needed?


ii) With regard to replacing a like for like electric shower in a bathroom that has broken….can a plumber / non-electrician do this? Or is a plumber needed for wet part and electrician for electric side. Again, is a minor works certificate needed.


iii) With regard to replacement of a central heating component such as a zone valve or cylinder stat….is a minor works cert needed ? Can this work be undertaken by a plumber / non-electrician?


I’m trying to work out what plumbing works can be undertaken by anyone / a non-electrician and what works require both trades.


in the plumbing / heating trade there is cross over. 


Many thanks for your time
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    mapj1:

    Well you can print out a minor works certificate from here  and have a look.

    There is no formal qualification needed to fill one out, but do you know what all the words are and what to do to fill it out ?

    If yes you are competent to issue it, equally you may have certificates galore but if you do not know how to check the earthing or what cable sizes should be, you should not be doing so

    (and there do seem to be some out there with 'Electrician' on the van whose certificates are more than a bit doubtful).


    As Harry Enfield nearly said, 'plumbers, know your limits' ..


    Mike



    (another sketch about folk trying things they maybe need more training for..)

     


    Fully agree. The thing that I am conscious with this whole scenario is this....


    If something goes wrong and you have a bit of paper that the courts / authorities / insurance companies like then there is a greater chance of you not being in the doo doo than if you have nothing. I'm not saying having a certificate will absolve you of being negligent or generally bad but   Being able to prove competence is going to be super important if something goes wrong. If, as they do sometimes, an accident happens that could have happened to anyone  and you don't have a proof of competence that the authorities like then you are in trouble. You are on the back foot from the start without some evidence of compentence and I guess the only way to prove a min level of competence is a cert of some kind.


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    mapj1:

    Well you can print out a minor works certificate from here  and have a look.

    There is no formal qualification needed to fill one out, but do you know what all the words are and what to do to fill it out ?

    If yes you are competent to issue it, equally you may have certificates galore but if you do not know how to check the earthing or what cable sizes should be, you should not be doing so

    (and there do seem to be some out there with 'Electrician' on the van whose certificates are more than a bit doubtful).


    As Harry Enfield nearly said, 'plumbers, know your limits' ..


    Mike



    (another sketch about folk trying things they maybe need more training for..)

     


    Fully agree. The thing that I am conscious with this whole scenario is this....


    If something goes wrong and you have a bit of paper that the courts / authorities / insurance companies like then there is a greater chance of you not being in the doo doo than if you have nothing. I'm not saying having a certificate will absolve you of being negligent or generally bad but   Being able to prove competence is going to be super important if something goes wrong. If, as they do sometimes, an accident happens that could have happened to anyone  and you don't have a proof of competence that the authorities like then you are in trouble. You are on the back foot from the start without some evidence of compentence and I guess the only way to prove a min level of competence is a cert of some kind.


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