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Question about Who can do what and minor works certs

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I have a couple of questions regarding small electrical works in a house, who can do them and whether a minor works cert is needed.

 

im trying to nail down an answer to the following. 


i) Can a plumber / non-electrician  replace a broken immersion heater in a water cylinder. i.e. unwire old one from the fused spur and wire in new one to fused spur? Is an qualified electrician needed? Is a minor works cert needed?


ii) With regard to replacing a like for like electric shower in a bathroom that has broken….can a plumber / non-electrician do this? Or is a plumber needed for wet part and electrician for electric side. Again, is a minor works certificate needed.


iii) With regard to replacement of a central heating component such as a zone valve or cylinder stat….is a minor works cert needed ? Can this work be undertaken by a plumber / non-electrician?


I’m trying to work out what plumbing works can be undertaken by anyone / a non-electrician and what works require both trades.


in the plumbing / heating trade there is cross over. 


Many thanks for your time
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    "The LA will want the work done to BS 7671 and will want a copy of the cert."

    What the LA want and what the law (Part P) says are two very different things.


    But none of the examples in this post require notification under part P - new circuits do, but not basic repairs and replacements (even when inside the bathroom zones.) And I suggest that that should normally be done using  BS7671 as the standard.


    For notifiable works, what the LA require is convincing that the requirements of the building act are met. They are well aware that generally  this  includes evaluating methods that may not be in the approved documents, it is quite common for novel techniques in general building (think of straw bale houses and almost anything on 'Grand Designs' on TV for examples of that ).

    They just get very twitchy when you take them out on a limb electrically because commonly they need to call in external advice for that, and most easily contacted UK experts are understandably BS7671 centric.


    Mike.


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    "The LA will want the work done to BS 7671 and will want a copy of the cert."

    What the LA want and what the law (Part P) says are two very different things.


    But none of the examples in this post require notification under part P - new circuits do, but not basic repairs and replacements (even when inside the bathroom zones.) And I suggest that that should normally be done using  BS7671 as the standard.


    For notifiable works, what the LA require is convincing that the requirements of the building act are met. They are well aware that generally  this  includes evaluating methods that may not be in the approved documents, it is quite common for novel techniques in general building (think of straw bale houses and almost anything on 'Grand Designs' on TV for examples of that ).

    They just get very twitchy when you take them out on a limb electrically because commonly they need to call in external advice for that, and most easily contacted UK experts are understandably BS7671 centric.


    Mike.


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